Joule Thief 101

[MileHigh]

Magluvin:

That's twelve postings from you on the same subject.  That's harassment.

You've gotten my answers and that's it and now is the time for you to stop.

MileHigh

[Magluvin]

Magluvin:

That twelve postings from you on the same subject.  That's harassment.

You've gotten my answers and that's it and now is the time for you to stop.

MileHigh

lol.  So now you 'make up' a 12 post rule?  lol. Please post a document that describes that rule exists..   Look at your most recent posts to me. They are just happy happy joy joy? ?   Hypocrite.

YOU did not provide the answers.  YOU made up the Ideal Voltage Source Where The Voltage Varies Over Time. YOU made it up to fit YOUR argument because the real ideal voltage source does not work for YOUR argument. YOU cannot run around talking Ideal Voltage Source in YOUR argument and say that the voltage varies with time, when THE DEFINITION of ideal voltage source absolutely contradicts YOUR claim. Show me otherwise.  Can you or not???

Here is some harassment.     
Sue me.

You claim that cemf of an inductor is 'just a measurement'. You said it just today.  It is YOU that needs to go and learn inductors if YOU cannot say that cemf is a direct action in the function of an inductance.

Now, tell me that cemf is 'only' a measurement when it comes to inductance again.  Go ahead. Say it as if it is fact.  That was the only thing close to an explanation that you have shown here, and you are wrong.  Go ahead and say it again. Then have your electronic guys help you out of that one.

I await more harassment. When what Im really waiting for is answers, that will never come.

Magluvin

[MileHigh]

I can't help it if you are so completely clueless after all the years of tinkering with electronics that you can't conceive of a variable ideal voltage source - or - this is all the fake Dancing Chicken.

I told you, go see Brad about the "Ideal CEMF" source.  This is the second and last time I will say it.

[tinman]

You are just making a fool out of yourself Magluvin and if you are trying to play me then you are a double-fool.  Go chase after Brad because he is the brainiac that invented the term "Ideal CEMF."  It's an on-the-fly definition from him, another "pearl of wisdom" from his stream of consciousness.  Yes, in the basic definition of the term counter electromotive force, a resistor also generates CEMF in response to the current that is flowing through it.  It's a matter of perspective.  Deep thoughts Magluvin, deep thoughts.  You make me laugh about the "rules" about an ideal voltage source.  One more time, you can trace that back to another inspired steam-of-consciousness "pearl of wisdom" from Brad.  Go get your training and the definitions of the "new terms" from Brad - he is the originator of this stuff.

MH,you really are full of it,and we are back to the resonance saga,where you feel that you can just rearange terms and meanings at your will,to suit your needs.

An ideal voltage dose not change with time-period. That is what makes it ideal.
If anyone here would like to find any reference that shows an ideal voltage changing with time,please post it here.
If anyone can prove the the CEMF in an ideal inductor is also not ideal,ther please post it here.

If anyone can show that a DC current flow means only a steady state DC current flow,then please post it here.


Brad

[MileHigh]

You poor guys.  Here you are struggling to understand that the transition from a real inductor with a 0.000001 ohm wire resistance to an ideal coil is seamless.  Instead, you have this crazy belief that no current flows when it is an ideal inductor.  What's the root cause?  The root cause is that you don't understand what an inductor is.  It's "paint by numbers" electronics.  If you are given a sheet to paint in all of the areas, and some numbers are missing, you freeze.  So many things that should be just a normal learning experience are just another version of the ideal coil fiasco.  Simple, understandable things are turned into a crisis.  And to make matters worse, illogical things are invented out of thin air and become part of some "electronics superstition."  You don't have a hope in hell.

Everybody could have been on board and worked together and the question could have been answered a long time ago and everybody could have been that much smarter.  But no, this is the Bizarro world, where your goal is to make it harder and the goal is to fail.

The whole thing is like some Monty Python Black comedy.  The answer to the question will never be arrived at.