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Global Warming

Started by PaulLowrance, November 25, 2009, 08:45:51 AM

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PaulLowrance

The following is continued from another thread to focus on the topic of Global Warming,

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 25, 2009, 04:48:36 AM
Actually, the correct term is "Man Caused Global Warming" and this does not exist.  Over 35,000 climate scientists signed a petition saying just this.  The earth has had heating and cooling periods through out it's history.  Funny that the real data shows a cooling since the industrial revolution of some 1.01 degrees.  Also, CO2 is not a poison gas as the US EPA now says it is.  Al Gore's, and others, "documentaries" showing the glaciers calving as evidence of global warming.  Funny thing about this is that glaciers do calve BUT only when they are advancing due to a cooling trend as in a coming ice age.  Glaciers do NOT calve when they melt, they just melt.  This is simple earth science that anyone who can read can find out for themselves.

Also, Polar Bears do not drown, they can swim for over 80 miles so that bear in the water in Al's video did not drown.

A video documentary team was aboard a cruise ship last week on a cruise down in the south pacific waters to document the terrors of global warming.  Well, that cruise ship got stuck in the frozen sea and, they said it will take about a week or more for icebreakers to set them free again.  Also note that this is the summer time down there.  Gee, I hate that for them.

We do need the truth and all you have to do is read a little bit on your own to see that this is nothing more than a world wide scam in a very large power grab.

I am glad those hackers published what they have found.

By the way, the "scientists" have already confirmed that those e-mails as published are accurate representations of what they had written so, the hackers did not doctor them.

Bill



Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 25, 2009, 04:48:36 AMThe earth has had heating and cooling periods through out it's history.  Funny that the real data shows a cooling since the industrial revolution of some 1.01 degrees.

The funny thing is that anyone can make a claim on a forum, but fortunately WikiPedia requires valid references for claims, and according the WikiPedia there is a clear global warming trend,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_Temperatures.png

and the above page graph is also shown in the WikiPedia main page on "Global Warming" -->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

I'll address your other *claims* in further posts.

Paul

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 25, 2009, 04:48:36 AM
Also, Polar Bears do not drown, they can swim for over 80 miles so that bear in the water in Al's video did not drown.

That's misrepresenting the truth. The video clearly shows a *baby* polar bear being left by the mother due to the melting.

Can you please clearly state the glaciers in totality are not melting?

Paul

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 25, 2009, 04:48:36 AMAlso, CO2 is not a poison gas as the US EPA now says it is.

Please show a valid reference as WikiPedia requires for the sake of being scientific.

Paul

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 25, 2009, 04:48:36 AMAl Gore's, and others, "documentaries" showing the glaciers calving as evidence of global warming.  Funny thing about this is that glaciers do calve BUT only when they are advancing due to a cooling trend as in a coming ice age.  Glaciers do NOT calve when they melt, they just melt.  This is simple earth science that anyone who can read can find out for themselves.

Are you trying to say that glaciers are not retreating and thinning? That is simply not true. Quote from WikiPedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Glacier_Mass_Balance.png

"This figure shows the average rate of thickness change in mountain glaciers around the world. This information, known as the glaciological mass balance, is found by measuring the annual snow accumulation and subtracting surface ablation driven by melting, sublimation, or wind erosion. These measurements do not account for thinning associated with iceberg calving, flow related thinning, or subglacial erosion. All values are corrected for variations in snow and firn density and expressed in meters of water equivalent (Dyurgerov 2002).

Measurements are shown as both the annual average thickness change and the accumulated change during the fifty years of measurements presented. Years with a net increase in glacier thickness are plotted upwards and in red; years with a net decrease in glacier thickness (i.e. positive thinning) are plotted downward and in blue. Only three years in the last 50 have experienced thickening in the average.

Systematic measurements of glacier thinning began in the 1940s, but fewer than 15 sites had been measured each year until the late 1950s. Since then more than 100 sites have contributed to the average in some years (Dyurgerov 2002, Dyurgerov and Meier 2005). Error bars indicate the standard error in the mean.

Other observations, based on glacier length records, suggest that glacier retreat has occurred nearly continuously since the early 1800s and the end of the little ice age, but variations in rate have occurred, including a significant acceleration during the twentieth century that is believed to have been a response to global warming (Oerlemans 2005).

Data
These measurements are described in Dyurgerov (2002), updated in Dyurgerov and Meier (2005), and archived at the World Glacier Monitoring Service at the National Snow and Ice Data Center. [1]
[2] (ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/pub/DATASETS/NOAA/G10002/)"

PaulLowrance

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 25, 2009, 04:48:36 AM
We do need the truth and all you have to do is read a little bit on your own to see that this is nothing more than a world wide scam in a very large power grab.

You've made a lot of false claims that would never stand at WikiPedia due to the strict WikiPedia policy of requiring facts & valid references. Sir, I believe you have it backwards. The motive is to hush the facts about Global Warming for the sake of the economy, and that it is a sick act. To actually place ones wallet ($$$) & luxuries over all of the other beautiful species & life on this planet is very sad.

Paul