Global Warming

[Pirate88179]

lwh:

Great post.

This all reminds me of when they banned DDT because ONE study showed it MIGHT weaken certain species of bird eggs.  Since this decision, millions upon millions of people have died from disease spread by mosquitoes and most of them in poor and under-developed countries.  So, save a bird egg, kill millions of poor people.  Great decision.  This is exactly the type of unintended consequences I have been talking about.

Another idiotic decision they made a few years back was to ban babies from being able to sit in their mother's laps on aircraft because, one day, one of the MIGHT get hurt.  In the history of commercial aviation, not one baby was ever hurt by this but they banned the practice anyway.  Since that time, it is estimated that tens of thousands of those babies were killed because the folks could not afford the extra ticket for the seat for the baby, so they drove to their destination which is, as we all know, statistically many more times more likely to kill you than flying.  So, no babies were ever hurt on a commercial aircraft by sitting on their mother's laps, but now many of them are dead. Great decision.

I don't know how many more of these "great decisions" we can take.

Bill

[blueplanet]

As regards Alzheimer's,

Check this out:

http://www.scpnet.com/on_pap_3.htm

If you do a search on 'aluminium neurotoxicity' there are quite a few links, including a book
on the subject on Amazon (though it is prohibitively expensive.) As regards absorption from the water supply, I understand this is greatly increased by the presence of flouride, and that also depends on the particular form the aluminium takes. It apparently interacts with other toxins and heavy metals interfering with various body functions.
       

Almost all mercury toxic individuals have high level of selenium in their pituitary glands. Does it mean selenium is neurotoxic?

The paper didn't comment on the neurotoxicity of aluminum. I believe you are trying to downplay the issue of mercury poisoning.

Like your government, you are trying to suggest that mercury poisoning is not a big deal. You are trying to ignore the findings by Univeristy of Calgary and other scientists, but you are no expert in toxicity at all. You are trying ignore the fact that air mercury come from emissions from the cars, coal fire plants, mining areas and other combusion facilities. And you are trying to be protective of the oil industry.

In my books on flouride there is additional material on aluminium, I'll have another look. Cheers

Have you ever treat people with Alzheimer's disease before?

[silverfish]

Almost all mercury toxic individuals have high level of selenium in their pituitary glands. Does it mean selenium is neurotoxic?

The paper didn't comment on the neurotoxicity of aluminum. I believe you are trying to downplay the issue of mercury poisoning.

Like your government, you are trying to suggest that mercury poisoning is not a big deal. You are trying to ignore the findings by Univeristy of Calgary and other scientists, but you are no expert in toxicity at all. You are trying ignore the fact that air mercury come from emissions from the cars, coal fire plants, mining areas and other combusion facilities. And you are trying to be protective of the oil industry.

Have you ever treat people with Alzheimer's disease before?

This point was made:

Results:

'There was a statistically significant difference between serum aluminium levels in Alzheimer's disease and other dementias and non dementing controls (P<.05).   No difference was found between serum aluminium levels in other dementias and non dementing controls.  Serum aluminium levels and the age distribution among patients with Alzheimer's disease showed a statistically significant positive correlation.'

I have absolutely no idea why you have decided I am trying to downplay the issue of mercury poisoning. I have already stated that mercury poisoning is bad news, just as mercury amalgam is an issue and injecting people with mercury-laden vaccines is an issue, just as seafood mercury contamination is an issue, just as industrial processes leading to mercury air contamination are also an issue. I agree with you!
        My point was that there are other toxins in the environment like lead, cadmium, flouride, aluminium, and Depleted Uranium, all of which cause harm to a greater or lesser degree - BTW there has been an outbreak of flourosis recently in India due to contaminated water supplies; it's a crippling disease.
      Naturally I accept that one study relating aluminium and Alzheimer's like this is not conclusive, merely suggestive of a connection.

You accuse me of being protective of the oil industry. That's a totally ludicrous assertion, about as far from the truth as you can possibly get, and by the way, I never claimed to be an expert in toxicity; perhaps you are, if so, then jolly good luck to you.

If I was such an expert, I would not be a very good one if I focused on mercury as being the sole, pre-eminent danger in the environment, to the exclusion of all others.

Just as nutrients interact in the body, phosphorus interferes with calcium uptake and so on, there is good evidence that toxins interact with each other - that's why I mentioned the connection between aluminium uptake and flouride.

To try and reduce this whole environmental poison issue to mercury alone, without considering other factors, is childish and unscientific, just as the idea that C02, the outward breath of life is a dangerous toxin that must be reduced at all costs, bankrupting poor countries with more crippling loans trying to 'help' them reduce their carbon footprint,
is both fallacious and genocidal.

[silverfish]

Never heard of him, however, if hostgator immediately 'caved' to the allegations made in the pdf:
http://dmca.hgfix.net/cpexposed.com/cpexposed.com.pdf ,
then they weren't much of an ISP to begin with...there's usually a 'cease and desist' demand followed by some sort of rebuttal and refusal before an ISP take-down.

If the documents listed in that pdf were actually copies of DMCA protected stuff then Gerrish didn't know what he was doing, either (then again, maybe he did...).

He could have easily gotten around it by quoting pertinent sections, giving proper attribution and providing links to the actual documents hosted on another server/s, which he could simply have described as his 'sources', disavowing any other connection to the documents.

If FOIA issues had resulted in the release of the documents then that could establish yet another point in rebuttal of the above take-down demand.

Then too, publicity resulting from the take-down could actually help bring attention to Gerrish's cause, maybe Alex Jones will end up giving him a blog on the prison-planet/infowars network if the response to this take-down is great enough.

No such thing as bad publicity...

Tony

To hear what Brian Gerrish has to say, check this out:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/05may/RIR-090526.php

[blueplanet]

To try and reduce this whole environmental poison issue to mercury alone, without considering other factors, is childish and unscientific, just as the idea that C02, the outward breath of life is a dangerous toxin that must be reduced at all costs, bankrupting poor countries with more crippling loans trying to 'help' them reduce their carbon footprint,
is both fallacious and genocidal.

I am a british citizen living in asia.  i believe it is the ch**ese government who wants to bankrupt the nation by suppressing the commodity prices. Emission cut will not lead to suppression of commodity prices.

The idea of economic globalization is to export inflation and import deflation. Under the ideology of economic globalization, the US exports inflation by increasing its money supply. And it imports deflation by suppressing the commodity prices, collapsing the gold prices and encourgage the third world to peg their currencies to the US dollars.

To suppress the commodity prices, they have to make sure the "slaves" from the emerging economies continue to produce as much as possible. This means they cannot accept any deal or treaty that would will end up with less cheap labors from the third world, less mining of gold, less drilling of oil fields, less cheap goods, etc, etc.

By telling the emerging economies to peg their currencies, the power-that-be can continue to increase the money supply  without any devaluation of the so-called almighty US dollars.

Many government officials from the emerging economies have privately invested their money in dollar-denominated assets, including subprime mortgages and the US treasury bonds. Any appreciation of their countries' currencies will hurt their investments. To protect their own wealth, they will have to suppress the commodity prices and make sure their nations continue to support the US dollars, even at the cost of the environment.