Global Warming

[Azorus]

Cap,

not calling you a nut job, or anything.  Conspiracy theorist are fine, i don't like it but hey who am i to say what is right.

If this is a forum of truth why would it be motified?

P.S. i have my own theories about things to, i just don't like to mention them in a public forum.

[Nabo00o]

Your future posts will reveal your true nature...no more excuses are necessary.
Regards...

I have nothing to hide 
It might have been though that my real wishes didn't shine through my first posts here.

Julian

[Cap-Z-ro]

Words are meaningful and powerful...choose them carefully...they are sometimes tough to chew.

What I said above still holds...you can't un-ring a bell...the best you can do is to follow a bad chord with rich tones.

Regards...

[silverfish]

Silverfish, try to understand that I was talking about the general consensus of the people who have commented on this tread, including you, when I said that you had no idea what communism is.

I really don't want to be hostile, no goal is ever so great that it goes above reality and truth, whatever it may be. And the best way to get there is to be as friendly and open as possible, so I apologize if I haven't followed up on that.


Okey you are not American or Canadian, and I am not an authority on communism 
But a lot of people sight when they hear Americans talk about communist propaganda in their media or "Obama is trying to force socialistic laws through the constitution". Usually hyper conservative or right wing media channels like fox news and radios try to give its audience an impression which fits their ideology. If you are used to more "neutral" media (if I may say so) and watch fox news (or any of the other channels owned by Rupert Murdoch), you get pretty shocked at how everything seems to be twisted in order to fit their view...

I personally think it is scary that somebody actually take what they say seriously....


Anyway, I wasn't trying to be cryptic. If you have followed the recent years in USA you should know that it was George Bush who increased the total debt in his country to new gigantic proportions (primarily because of the wars), in addition to bailing out the first failing company.

Likewise I don't care so much anymore about wether they are republicans or democrats.
Since there for all practical reasons is only a 2 party system in the US, the corruption and lack of democracy this creates makes the voting worthless. At least, if I had been raised there this would have been my conclusion.


And you have no ******* idea how much I agree with you about the increased "security" and surveillance. There have been huge debates in our country about a new law which the EU wants to push though about data collection and storing, everything from who we call, what emails we send and how much, they want all this and more stored from 'everyone' because of counter-terrorism reasons....
And all this started with 9/11 ....

Anyway, I believe this will all be momentarily, I am positive, and I believe there is logic tied to all of this, even if it might be hard for people to understand.

Julian

Peace. I agree with what you're saying here. My position is that we need to get beyond left and right, capitalism and communism, to understand what's behind it...

[sparks]

  The human body is a little communistic organization going on.  Every individual cell working for the good of the whole.  It is global effort.  The muscle cells cooperating with the nerve cells.  I am quite sure that the body holds no predjudice or wars between cells in the eyes and cells in the heart muscles.  All work for the good of the organization of cells that form the individual.  Organization of chemicals that wish to perpectuate its form.  The only thing that seperates man from the beast is his ability to preconceive or create a reality not dependent on physical input from the environment.  This ability may not just be mans.  A chimpanzee knows that when he cant reach a fruit on a tree he needs to get a stick to swat it.  Did the chimpanzee preconceive his arm reaching out and not being able to reach the fruit and then preconceive the same sceanario but using a stick this time.  Then going about the task of finding a stick and using it based on comparison of the two minidreams.  I think what man needs to do is dream together.  Get together and preconceive what heaven on Earth would be and then go out and work towards making this common dream a reality.  I feel otherwise man is to suffer the same fate as all the other species that have dominated this planet at one time or another.