Global Warming

[PaulLowrance]

@paul

Please see

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8342.msg210577#msg210577

Also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dt2arDi7K8

I replied in that thread already,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8342.msg210872#msg210872


This recent contraversy is not about if global warming is real. We all know it's real. It's about how much of it's caused by humanity.

The media has been filming glaciers all around the world for decades. It's a fact they are thinning and retreating, and disappearing. Like I said, even TV documentary shows such as Huell Howser's TV show "California Gold" have shown before and after video footage of glariers in *California* disappearing. That is a fact. The park rangers took Huel to some California glaciers and the rangers clearly said they are vanishing. Huel Howser took video footage of these places ages ago, and then he took recent footage. It is shocking at how fast these glaciers are vanishing! What's more shocking this massive movement to try and hide this truth. Why? One word, "Economy!" How sad for humanity to bully around the other weaker species and the entire natural environment on the planet for $$$ & luxury.

Paul

[PaulLowrance]

Huell Howser does a show on places in California. So he's done TV shows various glaciers in California such as Conness Glacier. Quote from WikiPedia, "In 2004, a study found that since 1900, Conness Glacier had lost half its surface area-- reference: Basagic, Hassan; Andrew G. Fountain. "Glaciers and Glacier Change in the Sierra Nevada, California" (pdf). U.S. Geological Survey. http://www.fs.fed.us/psw/mtnclim/talks/pdf/basagic_fountain_poster_mtnclim2006.pdf. Retrieved 2007-01-23."

I and millions of people who watch Huell on TV can testify that this is correct. The before & after video footage is devastatingly sad. At this point who cares about the email war about if the data suggests a lot of global warming is due to humanity or not. Something's causing global warming. Lets not take a chance. Go green!

Paul

[blueplanet]

Money is the king. The following documents detail which institutions have been paid by ExxonMobil to lie to the scientific community:

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/documents/3860_GlobalClimateSciencePlanMemo.pdf

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/documents/5910_2003.giving_report.pdf

http://research.greenpeaceusa.org/?a=download&d=4380


http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:mBYKqnsQlFEJ:www.campaignmoney.com/exxon_mobil.asp+Exxon%27s+2005+contributions&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk

[blueplanet]

According to Exxon's website, most of their decade-long political contributions were made to the Republican party only. This means they are not really dear to the democratic party:

http://www.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/about_issues_political.aspx

The unexpected election of obama seems like a political punch to them.

[PaulLowrance]

It would be nice if everyone in the world was unbiased, but the hacked email incident is spreading such false information.  Gavin Schmidt, a research scientist with NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who is unbiased about this topic, says the e-mails offer no damning indictment of climate researchers, and that bloggers are reading information in them out of context. Gavin just made a public statement,

Quote from Gavin Schmidt, a research scientist with NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies:

"There's nothing in the e-mails that shows that global warming is a hoax," he told Threat Level. "There's no funding by nefarious groups. There's no politics in any of these things; nobody from the [United Nations] telling people what to do. There's nothing hidden, no manipulation.  "It's just scientists talking about science, and they're talking relatively openly as people in private e-mails generally are freer with their thoughts than they would be in a public forum. The few quotes that are being pulled out [are out] of context. People are using language used in science and interpreting it in a completely different way."

There are signs aside from global mean temperatures, including melting of arctic sea ice, rising sea levels, and a lot of other indicators.

Paul