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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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lumen

Just like the current direction through the coils. I had ask Sean early on if reversing the current direction was necessary, or was just to show it would operate regardless of current direction.
He did not answer the question.
It may run with coil current flow in either direction but only achieve the OU effect when current flows in the correct direction. (depending on the rotor magnet polarity)
The devil is in the details!




lostcauses10x

Some interesting reading and work done by you guys.

I am sure some of what I am about to post has been covered.

NO CEMF means no propulsion by the coil None.

All this is to do is disconnect the magnetic circuit between the magnets and the coil core.

Confused?? Most will be.

Timing has to be adjusted for coil on just before the lock position of closest dead center. it needs to be very close to the knee that when shut off the upcoming magnet is connected to. It means about 45 dergees from the closest dead center.

The rotor magnets need to be able to retract the field a bit on the disconnect.  NS out, and or some arrangement the normal connection retracts a bit. Maybe even the same pole out with a back bar magnet as TK does. Seems to be a good arrangement.

Coil distance should be set to the minimal drag on the rotor when it is powered. In theory it should not add to the rotor velocity, nor when take it away. that would be no CEMf.
When such is done, there will be no CEMF. This is a problem due to the magnet will still see the thing. To close the magnet will still have a strong connection. To far will effect the reluctance this works by.

This device is to work by reluctance to the permanent magnets. Not the energy transfer to the rotor.

Confused???

I am sure most are.

This can work as a drive with CEMF. Yet that is not what one wants to use to make a OU device I am told.

It is such the more fixed the cost of operating the coil, the better off you are. Cost per cycle, to the kinetic energy gain.   Cost goes down per cycle ( on time is faster ) and the KE stays mostly the same. That is the ideas I can get from all of this.

Oh and the scope shots from the demo. Forget them until it is redone. Unknown voltage source. Used a power supply instead of battery. current may be high due to that. Voltage is just messed up due to clipping.  It was messed up demo. Remember they use a reed switch and a variable load on the original. Also a diode to protect the flyback on that reed switch.

I may or may not check back..

remember the coil when on: is not the drive, it should produce NO torque to the rotor.

folks are going for the highest speeds to electrical cost. Mistake!
  Get the timing and coil set up correct first. Then adjust timing at the just before TDC and that approx 45 degree position or so.

This is not a drive in the normal range. It is supposedly the main part of an OU device. Do not treat it as a electric motor.

Strange, Yes.

That claim of no CEMf is just as interesting as the claims of OU.   And is also a part of that claim of OU. 

Work to get the least connection by the rotor to the coil when it is on.
Edited to remove some white space.

captainpecan

@lostcauses,
Have you tried replicating this device yet, or are you stating learned theories?  Just curious.  To be honest, most of what you say is pretty accurate as to how I believe it also.  Those are some pretty good obsersations if you have not built one yourself yet, and many of what you stated I've been talking about also.  Keep tabs on us, my replication is planned to have most of what you said in it's design.

dradak1

Just out of the blue - Sean mentioned "stretch" to have capacitor there (as Paul explained - possible to have ultra one with all ups and downs) - looks that device must reach certain oscillation (like old PC working on crystals) before become potential OU. 

rice

good job on the replications people.  but please remember that with all this attention he is getting his product is still just a clever motor run by a battery.  remember what he has done in the past.  i check this board at least weekly for years to see the next great idea.  i do believe this one will pan out like all of the others.  i feel that magnets are going to be a solution one day, just not like this.