Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 30 Guests are viewing this topic.

gravityblock

Quote from: exnihiloest on January 16, 2010, 08:58:33 AM
The core is fully saturated along circles inside the toroid. It is not saturated for transversed fields or fields not exactly directed along the toroid.
While magnets cannot increase the magnetic field along the toroid because of saturation, nevertheless they can still be attracted because their not toroidal fields can still rotate the magnetic domains of the toroid core towards their own direction which is different from the saturation direction.

You're misunderstanding me.  The goal is not to increase the strength of the magnetic field along the toroid.

It takes 10,000mA with 37 turns with the correct core dimensions and permeability to create a field strength of 0.13T that will saturate the core when the magnets are TDC.  The magnets already pre-saturated the core at TDC with 0.47T flux density but the core is still fully attractive.  We need an additional 0.13T flux density to saturate the core so it is no longer attractive at TDC.

This is not hard to understand.  Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

k4zep

Quote from: gravityblock on January 16, 2010, 09:21:45 AM
You're misunderstanding me.  The goal is not to increase the strength of the magnetic field along the toroid.

It takes 10,000mA with 37 turns with the correct core dimensions and permeability to create a field strength of 0.13T that will saturate the core when the magnets are TDC.  The magnets already pre-saturated the core at TDC with 0.47T flux density but the core is still fully attractive.  We need an additional 0.13T flux density to saturate the core so it is no longer attractive at TDC.

This is not hard to understand.  Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.

Hi GB,

After all the discussion about MetGlass, this on Steorn's forum:

Steorn 19 hours ago  permalink
overconfident:What core materials are you using?


Just a soft magnetic material - I will not go into the details - sorry.

Now how do you get almost 1H with 38 turns??????

Ben





PaulLowrance

Quote from: k4zep on January 16, 2010, 09:31:32 AM
Hi GB,

After all the discussion about MetGlass, this on Steorn's forum:

Steorn 19 hours ago  permalink
overconfident:What core materials are you using?


Just a soft magnetic material - I will not go into the details - sorry.

Now how do you get almost 1H with 38 turns? ??? ??

Ben

Either with ultra high permeability material or ~ a 1000 turns with common material. The way only it could be 1000 turns is if there are hidden layers that use microscopic wire.

I've concluded that Steorn must at least have a square loop core in order to get the scope shots they're showing.  :)

Slowly but surely we're figuring it out.

gravityblock

Quote from: Airstriker on January 16, 2010, 08:53:47 AM
Nice "reverse time flow of current" theory lol. I just simply don't have time to answer all your stupid posts and will stop this mess in the thread right now ;]

Did you read the link.  If you had, then you would have noticed it wasn't my theory.  I even said in the post it wasn't my theory.  I posted that link to show that Sean's theory on modifying the time frame is the same theory on the Adam's motor.  You have no reading comprehension.

You tell me to cast the first stone at your theory and I did.  After I did this, then you bring up the time reversal stuff again because you have no rebuttal to my theory. lol

I'm glad you're deciding to stop this mess.  I suggested you get over it, and to move on many pages back.  As long as you're attacking and insulting me, I'm going defend myself.

Take care,

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

teslaalset

Quote from: k4zep on January 16, 2010, 09:31:32 AM
Now how do you get almost 1H with 38 turns??????
Ben, in my view the situation with the cores is following:
- indeed, metglas maybe the candidate core material. Sean of Steorn indicated that by saying they use soft magnetic material.
- During the use of the core material there is only a specific area where the permeability is very high (upto 1.000.000) and that is at the H field values where the B-H curves are vertical, so at very specific current values in the coils (indicated in red below)

Now, the Steorn demo showed a coil value of around 0.961 - 0.984 Henry.
This was shown at the first part of the third video. The magnets were positioned near the coil, while measuring the coil, so presumably around a near saturated core situation.
A near saturated coil of metglas will not have a permeability of 1.000.000. but much, much lower. More like 10 - 300.

So, to conclude, I don't think those coils have only 37 windings, but much more.

[edit] above text has been corrected