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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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gravityblock

Lumen posted information on this patent: US20090096219, in the Solid State Orbo thread, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8597.msg224747#msg224747


The patent says the data is for a dual toroid configuration using Finemet in the Solid State sytstem.


GB

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Airstriker

beautiful GB :) Lets read it...

woopy i meant no harm to you ;] I just said this thread is about replicating and nothing more. There is a solid state ORBO like device thread so maybe there should be one for yours ;> But do as you wish.

Jimboot

Thank you all for your help. My Macbook Pro HDD died yesterday so I have been un able to upload anything. I've switched to Hall effect ignition switch instead of the sensor. Trying to keep the circuit as simple as poss!

PaulLowrance

Quote from: gravityblock on January 24, 2010, 09:11:45 PM
In the conventional soft magnetic materials, “whose grain size is far larger than 1μm”, it was well known that soft magnetic properties become worse and coercive force increases when crystal grain size becomes smaller. For example, coercive force is thought to be inversely proportional to D.  Therefore, main efforts to improve the soft magnetic properties were directed to make the crystal grain size larger and/or to make the magnetic domain size smaller by annealing and working.

However, FINEMET demonstrated a new phenomenon; reduction of grain size, “to a nano-meter level”, improves the soft magnetic properties drastically.  In this nano-world, the coercive force is directly proportional to D on the order of D2 to D6. This is absolutely contrary to the conventional concepts for improving the soft magnetic properties.

In this nano-world of FINEMET, the coercive force is directly proportional to D on the order of D2 to D6, while in the conventional soft magnetic materials the coercive force is thought to be inversely proportional to D.  It sounds like FINEMET is much more softer than the Metglas.

If Metglas doesn't have the Aharonovâ€"Bohm effect and is not as soft as FINEMET, then the Metglas may not be just fine.  Don't forget, the bread crumbs on researching the Aharonovâ€"Bohm effect has led me to the FINEMET.  I also think the Aharonovâ€"Bohm effect is the Orbo effect.  It appears FINEMET is a very soft material, which may be what Steorn is referring to when he says a soft material.

IMO, the FINEMET is a better candidate for the Orbo effect than the Metglas.  I've been wrong many times, but FINEMET does look more promising to me.  Neither one needs to be ruled out, and both needs to be tested.

[Edit:]  The information contained within this post can be found on Page 8 of the "Intro Finemet brochure" that I provided a link to in my previous post.


GB

Metglas sells Finemet. Actually I own a lot of Finemet & Metglas cores, and Metglas has the highest magnetic permeability. Which cores works the best, I have no idea, but my measurements already show that the Metglas MAGAMP core in the "tiny orbo replication" was ~ COP 2.   :)

IMO the excess energy effect will appear in either Metglas or Finemet.

As far as the Aharonovâ€"Bohm effect, come on. Please study about the effect because scientists have been researching it for ages, and it is a ridiculously difficult weak effect to even measure.



PaulLowrance

Quote from: Jimboot on January 25, 2010, 07:01:02 AM
Thank you all for your help. My Macbook Pro HDD died yesterday so I have been un able to upload anything. I've switched to Hall effect ignition switch instead of the sensor. Trying to keep the circuit as simple as poss!

I think the problem you were having was that you were using a hall effect sensor without the internal switch. Therefore, you would most likely need an extra transistor to inverse the signal. So when your mosfet was supposed to be off, it was on.