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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: Larskro on March 05, 2010, 05:49:29 AM
Am I right or wrong with this video ????
http://www.youtube.com/user/Larskro#p/a/u/0/_EapgzWFAh4

Hi Larskro,

I would like to understand why you do not use the input power in the calculation of overunity?

Quote from your text:

"Input power without load. 4 volt * 31mA = 0.124 watt. All the power is heat losses. 
Input power with load. 4 volt * 32 mA = 0,128 watt. Input power increase with 0,004 watt.
The output to the load is 7,72 volt * 2,99 mA = 0,023 watt. The Overunity is 0,023 - 0,004 = 0,019 watt  COP 4,8 ???"

You actually consume 0.124W input power, it is ok that it is a heat loss and also saturates the cores but you totally disregard this 0.124W when you calculate overunity.  You consider only the increase in input power. Why?

It is YOU who inputs 0.124W, not the enviroment or something else.

rgds, Gyula

petersone

Hi Gyula
I am with you there,unless all the  0.124W is heat,and can be totally recovered.
peter

gyulasun

Thanks Peter,  however a heat loss is rather difficult to recover with reasonable efficiency and maybe there is a better hope for recovering the pulse created by the collapsing magnetic field in the toroidal core, just after the switch-off of the input current. 
Maybe the changing permeabilty of the ring core helps in catching more pulse energy than usually comes from collapsing fields (this latter is always less than the input in normal cases).  This is where further tests are needed, Steorn keeps silence on this.

rgds, Gyula

petersone

Hi Gyula
Yes, you are right,for ou everything needs to be utilized,heat,flyback,and anything else we can think of,but it maybe heat that we want,so the fan,on the rotor, would be "free" if the heat could be turned back to juice with ease I think we would have self running heat pumps.
peter