STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[gravityblock]

Please read again the first link of mine and stop talking about reading comprehension

In the first link, you will find a reference link to an image, http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/images/2sg2b.jpg  This image is of the scope shot from Episode 6.  The other reference link to the other image is the circuit from Episode 7, http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/images/2SGenMDtest.gif  Exnihiloest is mixing the scope shot from Episode 6 with the circuit from Episode 7.  You can't do this, because the circuit in Episode 7 is different than Episode 6.  In fact, there are two circuits in Episode 7.

After the pulse has ended for the magnetization phase, the core is still being magnetized due to a lag in induction.  This lag in induction is what exnihiloest sees as some of the magnetization energy being accounted for in the demagnetization phase in Episode 6.  In Episode 7, Naudin has two circuits which separates the demag phase from the mag phase, so Exnihiloest arguments can no longer hold true for Episode 7.  Exnihiloest knows what he is talking about, and this was an intentional and obvious attempt by him to misdirect the other thread.  I really question the motivation and agenda of Exnihiloest, Airstriker, and a few others here.  There is nothing wrong with being wrong, but doing it intentionally is another thing.  There is always a possibility Naudin's measurements are wrong in Episode 7, but the arguments I've been hearing, saying they are wrong do not hold any weight.

If you can't accept the COP of 13.7 for the Dmag/Mag ratio as being correct (which I believe it is correct), then what is wrong with the COP of 2.2 for the Output/Input ratio that Wings posted?  Both COP measurements is showing a COP>1.  Are you saying both are wrong?

GB

[Omega_0]

I think this one is the best replication so far :

http://www.youtube.com/user/mschuckel#p/a/u/0/NpHnc4iWBJE

2W input, 5500 RPM, 8 coils
No magnetic bearings, no precision cnc, no expensive scopes.

Can you see the power its producing ?

[Omnibus]

@Оmega_0,

How do you judge it's overunity?

[Omega_0]

@Оmega_0,

How do you judge it's overunity?

It seems it could easily produce 2W, if coupled to a generator. We will see ...
The problem is , this vid is 2 weeks old, and he has no updates to show even with such a promising setup.

I'm hopeful because of the speed. At that speed, the required pulse width will be tiny and the joule heating will be so low that it will be possible to self run it.

[gyulasun]

There's a difference between the amount of current flowing through a system and the amount of load or consumption. When you take a reading on a circuit that's just your meter and your battery, you're not consuming anything, you're just measuring the flow past the multimeter. The electrons go right back into the battery. They aren't "used up." 

Sorry to say but you have taken too much Bearden pill that poisoned your understandings on electric circuit behaviors.  Because if you take a battery and check its output voltage with a multimeter, you actually load the battery with the meter but at a really negligible way.  Most digital multimeters have about a 10 MegaOhm inner resistance and the current that is consumed from the battery during the measurement is V_Bat/10MOhm, ok?
However small pico or microamper current is consumed, it is dissipated in the 10MOhm inner resistance, WILL NOT GO BACK to the battery.

The same is true for the case of toroidal coils, the wire copper resistance is heated by the current taken from the battery or from the power supply in Larskro's case, the power dissipation in the wire is I²R where R means the total coil resistances used in series.

And the dissipated power will not go back to the battery or to the power supply, because part of is converted into heat in the wires and part of it is converted into magnetic flux. And part of it is used up by the ferromagnetic core in hysteresis loss and the like, whatever small part these are in case of modern cores.

If you make clever circuits that are able to recapture the energy from collapsing magnetic fields in the coils than you can reduce the input power consumption by utilizing the recaptured energy but normally you cannot eliminate fully the input power. And in case the power taken from the battery or from a power supply creates heat in any part of a circuit, you cannot recover it easily, even if you make dedicated circuits for recovering it in electric form again.

Has Larskro used some means for capturing the energy of the collapsing flux in the coils? Maybe I missed that, sorry.

Has Larskro used any means for returning most part of the input power consumed by the toroidal coils back to his power supply?  Maybe I missed that too, sorry.

I am aware of Steorn claiming a COP > 1 performance for their motor and so far I hope the COP>1 possibility is inherent in their motor design.  However, I do not know HOW they actually did it, what circuits they used etc, etc.
I am open for accepting COP>1 performance from their motor and looking forward to learn the real solution whenever they disclose it.

What you try to explain in your previous letter I cannot buy it, sorry.

rgds,  Gyula