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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Omnibus

@Omega_0,

I’m posting this here because it pertains to the methodology all these transformer-type devices, including Steorn’s (if Steorn’s eOrbo is a real OU machine the same effect should be seen in a corresponding solid-state transformer-type device also), should be studied by. I’m attaching a Tektronix DPO2014 screen shot of a RadioShack 273-1380 Transformer powered by an HP 8116A Pulse Generator at 10Hz and 25% duty cycle. The load resistance (Ohmic resistances are measured using a Keithley 2000 multimeter) is not optimized yet to allow maximum power efficiency transfer from the primary into the secondary coil, so this is just an illustration. As seen, the Pout/Pin ratio is very near unity despite the fact that the eddy current and hysteresis losses have not been taken into account. Would be curious to hear your comments. What I’d also expect is to have someone else carry out the same measurements on this transformer so that we can confirm the methodology and  extend an offer to anybody with an OU claim to have his device examined and the OU effect independently verified.

Omnibus

Please see attached the corresponding Excel file (compressed).

Omega_0

Omni,

Interesting experiment. I haven't gone through the data yet, but I guess at 10 Hz the losses will be undetectable. Even an average quality transformer is 99% efficient. So total of joule energy will be almost equal to input energy (I*V), if the secondary is shorted.

Anyway, at high frequencies also, most of the losses convert into heat. So a calorimeter will show the same results, a scope may not.

My brain is not working right now for some reason, but I guess you are trying to show that if you place a rotor near this transformer and somehow if this rotor spins, it spins for free. Because all the losses have been accounted for, the energy in rotor is unexplained. Doubly so, when the rotor does not induce any reaction in the transformer.

This is exactly steorn's logic, and your experiment is good enough to illustrate it IMO. I will reply again after some sleep.
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

X00013

I am posting here because my brain does not work that way, simplistically that is, my brain ain't workn simplistically.

Omega_0

Studied the data, it is good enough for an example. Only problem is that there are two coils and their power must be added to get the output, which can be confusing for many people. Because normally we don't add primary side power to secondary to compute total output energy.

Anyway, I think that this method should be applicable to all pulse OU systems for validation purpose. Attached plot is (VI-heat) which looks very similar to steorn's plot. Your excel file is also attached with extra calculations (data points reduced for size limit). So all replicators can follow this method and compare the plot like this one with Eout.

I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison