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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Omnibus

That's correct. That's what Steorn are plotting as net input and are comparing to the power generated in the pickup coil. The problem is that the result is crucially dependent on the Ohmic resistance values. If all the currents and voltages are measured properly, no unaccounted for offsets and such, an incorrectly assumed R value may lead to false appearance of what may seem as OU. R cannot be measured on the fly and has to be assumed. This may be one major source of error.

On the other hand, like I said, if this effect is real with eOrbo then it should also show up with the so-called solid-state devices. Naudin's 2SGen, for instance, should be tested in this way.

By the way, I tried to optimize the output by changing the output resistance but what I got was worse than what I already showed.

Omnibus

Here are some results with JLNaudin's 2SGen replica. As seen, everything is as expected --  no OU.

Omnibus

Enclosed below are the corresponding data in an Excel spreadsheet.

infringer

I guess I do not understand how someone can assume that a solid state or stationary device could even remotely come close to having the same effects as a moving object onimbus you are very educated indeed I am not attacking you per say I just refuse to agree on that I believe that moving and non moving should be kept apart here if we are so worried about elaborate setups and readings and specifics the last thing we want to do is group these to things as "should have the same effect" ... Your assumptions are correct steorn may have something don't give this all up on a whim they have far too much invested to intentionally make inaccurate readings and they have struggled with this for years naudin is a great guy too but there may be something missing that he or we are not catching totally who knows but do not put down the sword!

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exnihiloest

Quote from: infringer on May 14, 2010, 12:12:53 AM
I guess I do not understand how someone can assume that a solid state or stationary device could even remotely come close to having the same effects as a moving object...

It is the principle supposedly involved in the moving object, that is applied in the stationary device.
If Steorn motor works as presumed, then a "static orbo system" should work.
But none works because the principle is flawed: ferrite saturation needs energy, and also a field for "modulating the permeability" superpose to the others and the effect is perfectly in agreement with the laws of physics and with what we observe, they don't multiply, no switching effect can be expected.