STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[billmehess]

@MileHigh

We know that changing the battery to a capacitor would be proof of OU.
But there IS a problem!
The Steorn devices contain no control electronics, so in a real OU device, how long could the device run on a capacitor?

I think about 45 seconds would be about it. That don't sound like much of a display.
After all, what good is an over unity device that only runs 45 seconds?

This really is the heart of the debate. If the device is really OU then it would run indef. off the cap. the reason that they are using a battery instead of the cap is that the device is not OU.
Its absolutly amazing to me and (I am sure everyone else) that they are not using a cap nor do they have any instrumentation to measure and confirm power in and power out. This should be beyond obvious.
I can not understand why every post on this thread is not asking that?
This is simply another ploy to keep the investor money rolling in,
It seems to me that MileHigh and myself seem to be the only posters raising the flag here. Even a five year old could see what there up to!!!

[Omnibus]

@billmehes,

They a company and they are protecting themselves. Stefan explained it already. How else are they gonna earn money. This is the unfortunate way our system functions.

What they have given away already is substantial info about what they call "their technology" (which in fact is something vell known as an idea, as far as I can see) -- violation of Lentz' law which is eqivalent to having an OU device. If that doesn't wet your appetite no amount of evidence with or without caps will be sufficient to you.

[billmehess]

@billmehes,

They a company and they are protecting themselves. Stefan explained it already. How else are they gonna earn money. This is the unfortunate way our system functions.

What they have given away already is substantial info about what they call "their technology" (which in fact is something vell known as an idea, as far as I can see) -- violation of Lentz' law which is eqivalent to having an OU device. If that doesn't wet your appetite no amount of evidence with or without caps will be sufficient to you.

Come on Omni there reason for being is to prove OU. You are right this how they raise money. Its only OU if power out is more than power in. Since they are claiming OU then this is what they must prove to be happening. They are the ones making the claim.   A cap or measurement of input power to output power would put this all to rest and they would receive more money than even they could comprehend. Its Lutec all over again. They guys are masters of misdirection. They thread is so Mylow like as the most obvious questions are not being asked.

[shruggedatlas]

Come on Omni there reason for being is to prove OU. You are right this how they raise money. Its only OU if power out is more than power in. Since they are claiming OU then this is what they must prove to be happening. They are the ones making the claim.   A cap or measurement of input power to output power would put this all to rest and they would receive more money than even they could comprehend. Its Lutec all over again. They guys are masters of misdirection. They thread is so Mylow like as the most obvious questions are not being asked.

I agree, it does not make any sense to hide the ball as far as proof.  If Steorn wanted to make money off the SKDB, etc., then the thing to hide is not the proof of overunity, but everything else.

Instead, what they did is explain in basic terms how their invention works, while hiding the proof that it actually works.  Hey, if you want people to sign up for the SKDB, do the opposite.  Hide as much as you can about HOW the device works, but be absolutely crystal clear on your proof that it does in fact produce overunity.  That is how you wet someone's appetite to plunk down for an SKDB subscription!

I think the answer is obvious.  They cannot demonstrate the impossible, so they demonstrate the possible and claim the impossible.

[Omnibus]

It isn't at all clear that they will get even more money if they reveal everything at once. All business is shady, has secrets, manipulates and so on. That's the nature of business. Otherwise everybody will be equally wealthy and that wealth differential won't exist. If you and I are angry at this kind of manipulation we should be 100 times more angry at the even greater manipulations of corporate culture we're sunk in. I'm amazed that they even showed that much.