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[k4zep]

Hi All,

Does any one have any more information on that pendulum you see at the start up.  I hope there is NOT a coil hidden in the base.

Ben

[gyulasun]

Last night I ran a simple test to see if "magnetic viscosity" would affect a signal.

I took two coils. Both are bifilar. One has all wires of same dimension (I think 23) and are wound as 1:1 ( classical Bedini for his solid state radiant charger ).

The other coil is 1:1 but one wire is 26 and the other is 23.

Both have iron as the core.

The test consisted of putting a signal from a signal generator in one coil and connect channel A probe of the osciloscope on it. Another probe B connected to the other end of the other wind (all on the same coil).

The signal is to be changed from 1 hz up to megahertz range. The scope should show both channels with the same signal and strength. Except for very small variations on the signal both signal should be the same phase and amplitude. Being square wave or sine wave. When using square wave I saw distortion on the signal (as expected) but still the same signal on both channels of the oscilloscope.

I tested the procedure on both coils and both had the same results.

Now, I change the core of one of the coils (the one with the same wire 23 on both winds) with a very powerfull NeFb Magnet.

I ran the same test and the results were nothing like before. Up to high end kilohertz the signal on both channels of the scope were still the same BUT when going to higher frequency such as megahertz things changed substantially.

I could not only make the signals very different in voltage, shape but also up to 180 degree offset. In some points I even had an amplification of the signal.

I am puzzled since I would expect the same signal behaviors as before. Off course having a powerful magnet as the core would be the same as having a core that is always saturated ( I think there is nothing more saturated than a full running Neo manget ).

My poor conclusions (for lack of better knowledge) is that the magnetic viscosity manifest itself more under higher frequencies therefore causing a much higher distortion of the signal through the coil.

Any corrections, ideas please?

Fausto.

Hi Fausto,

I do not think you ought to expect the same results with a magnet as the core with respect to an iron core. The permeability of the Neo magnet practically is 1 (you rightly say it is like a core that is always saturated) so your test with the magnet as the core is like as if you did not use any core in your coil, i.e. you measured the response of your air cored bifilar coil.
(If you still have the setup you may want to repeat the test without the magnet, no core at all, you should receive the same results like with the magnet as the core.

Gyula

[MrWolf]

The permeability of the Neo magnet practically is 1 (you rightly say it is like a core that is always saturated) so your test with the magnet as the core is like as if you did not use any core in your coil, i.e. you measured the response of your air cored bifilar coil.

This is why it seems extremely promising to me - air does not attaract to rotor magnets, but neo does like hell...

[powercat]

Hi All,

Does any one have any more information on that pendulum you see at the start up.  I hope there is NOT a coil hidden in the base.

Ben

Here is the thred Ben   http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8568.0   
cat

[k4zep]

Here is the thred Ben   http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8568.0   
cat

Thanks
Ben