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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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gravityblock

#1710
January 14, 2010, 07:55:06 PM
You can't compare a ferrite core with a metglass core in CEMF tests.  In most materials the core will lose it's attractiveness as the magnets approach and this is one form of CEMF and can be defeated with like poles.  The other form of CEMF is when the coil is closed prior to TDC and the magnets will induce an EMF in opposition to the current and this can be defeated with opposite poles with the proper polarity in the pulse.  The bottom line is you can only defeat one form of CEMF or the other, but you can't defeat both forms with a traditional pulse motors.

Metglas is the total opposite to all other materials.  It can defeat both forms of CEMF because the pulse can occur at TDC and become completely cloaked from the magnets almost instantly by going around 0.6T in field strength.  from 0.0 - 0.47T it doesn't lose it's attractiveness and is the reason why their magnets are around 0.47T.   between 0.5T - 0.6T it has a steep decline towards no attraction.

I now know why the rotor will rotate in the same direction when reversing the polarity pulse because all forms of CEMF has been eliminated on both the approach and departure.  Absolutely amazing.


GB
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PaulLowrance

#1711
January 14, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on January 14, 2010, 04:38:47 PM
Okay, I deduce that they are using 3/8" disc magnets.  One facing is North and the other South.

Cheers,

Bruce

Awesome Bruce!  btw, if you happen to find the toroid diameter and also the separation distance between the magnets & toroid then I'd greatly appreciate it!

Bruce_TPU

#1712
January 14, 2010, 08:38:46 PM
Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 14, 2010, 07:27:03 PM
Hi Bruce,

Great find! That's about as close to 1T (or 0.5T for one side open faced magnet) as it gets. Do you or anyone else know how thick the Steorn magnets are?

Hi Paul,

Actually, I am not going with the 1" magnet, but rather I am going to order some 1/4" and some 1/2" magnets of the same type, they do not have 3/8" and I can't find that gauss anywhere else.  All others are in the 13000-14000 gauss range. These smaller ones are still 10800 gauss.  They look to be about 1/8", not sure about the spacing, but appears to be less than 5mm.  Hard to see.  If our magnets are too strong, greater distance would be needed.  http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=469-1002-ND  for the 1/2" size.

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 14, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
Awesome Bruce!  btw, if you happen to find the toroid diameter and also the separation distance between the magnets & toroid then I'd greatly appreciate it!


I have been working on the toroid size and believe it to be 3/4" to 1".  I have ordered the 1" OD even though they were expensive.  I will probably use 37 turns of 20awg magnet wire and see how it looks.  I have wound so many thousands of turns on the wrong cores over the last several weeks, It will be a pleasure to wind 37 very neat winds!  LOL

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

lumen

#1713
January 14, 2010, 08:41:02 PM
So what is the current best selection for the Metglas cores?
I found these at a surplus site.
http://www.surplussales.com/Inductors/FerPotC/FerPotC-6.html


Bruce_TPU

#1714
January 14, 2010, 08:56:14 PM
Quote from: lumen on January 14, 2010, 08:41:02 PM
So what is the current best selection for the Metglas cores?
I found these at a surplus site.
http://www.surplussales.com/Inductors/FerPotC/FerPotC-6.html

The MP2510P4AH is what I ordered.  $12.00 USD each.

http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_6_4_1_b.asp

It is the IDENTICAL material that Paul L. and others felt would work.  the 4AH magnetic material.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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