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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

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PaulLowrance

#1795
January 16, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: k4zep on January 16, 2010, 09:58:27 AM
I agree.  Well I have a pile of normal cores and a few Metglass cores to be here in 3.4 days.  I can easily get more than 1 H with 4-500 turns and appears with a RL network (see JLN's newest video) at a particular voltage you can get that square wave....

Can you show this RL network and how efficient it is. So you're saying one can take a flat loop core, get the current to spike up almost instantly (requires high voltage), followed by flat DC current?

gravityblock

#1796
January 16, 2010, 10:26:27 AM
Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 16, 2010, 10:12:39 AM
Can you show the example while using realistic values for the Steorn toroid because I'm getting 1mH for -->

Toroid radius = 3 cm
Turns = 37
Coil radius = 2.5 cm
Permeability = 55,000
+++++++
Inductance = 985.60 mH

[Edit:]  The above represents a toroid that is 0.5cm in thickness.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

#1797
January 16, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: gravityblock on January 16, 2010, 10:26:27 AM
Toroid radius = 3 cm
Turns = 37
Coil radius = 2.5 cm
Permeability = 55,000
+++++++
Inductance = 985.60 mH

Hi GB,

3 centimeters is equal to 1.18 inches, and you have that as the radius of the toroid.  The radius should be 1.5 centimeters or even slightly less.

Please recalculate. 

Thank you,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gravityblock

#1798
January 16, 2010, 10:50:32 AM
Toroid radius = 1.5 cm
Turns = 37
Coil radius = 1.0 cm
Permeability = 168,000
+++++++
Inductance = 963.38 mH

The above represents a toroid that is 0.5cm in thickness.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

#1799
January 16, 2010, 11:03:11 AM
Hi Paul L.,

Could you please double check the permeability of our Magamps.  The people at Elna mentioned a permeability of 90,000.  You mentioned 1 million.  I tried to find it in the spec sheet but could not.  We need to know this exactly, to know the correct number of winds.   :)

Thank you,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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