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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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gravityblock

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 16, 2010, 02:14:18 PM
Not necessarily. Ultra high permeability cores close to a million are a different animal. They're square loop (have high remanence ), but it takes almost nothing to change their domains.

In my view it's still a "soft material" because the domains change easily.  Not every thing is black and white.  Sometimes there are exceptions to the rules.  Sometimes the patterns are broken.  That doesn't mean we can't talk in general terms.  Common sense should tell you it may not be the case in every situation.  Just look around, and you will see this all around you.  I could find something wrong in most of your posts also, but I don't..... because it is mostly correct and common sense lets me know what you are trying to say.  There are always two sides to a coin (maybe that is right and maybe that is wrong, but we should understand the meaning behind that statement without trying to prove the "always" wrong or right).

I guess I have to use, "maybe, mostly, if, sometimes, not necessarily, not always, except, but, possibly, etc.",  before every word I use.  That would be very redundant in my opinion to talk or to read such nonsense. 

Give me a break Paul.  Is this too much to ask?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Airstriker

It's not an exception. This is simply how it is in soft materials. If you're trying to explain things, be precise. Also I haven't seen anobody here being confused beacuse of Sean's words that they are using magnetically soft material. If you were, then it simply means you lack the knowledge about these materials. But if you don't have time to learn, simply read what I've written about metglas properties in my post about Back EMF. Also does the word Hysteresis mean anything to you ?
By the way, sorry for the coil radius issue - as Paul said it was strangly treated in that calculator. See? Admitting you are wrong is not that hard ;]

Edit:
One more thing. By saying that I didn't put anything to the subject you went to far. Please provide us some more videos or links to Adam's motor...

taramop

Hello to all
A new proto Orbo was born yesterday evening :D

If you want I invite you to see the first videos on the small:

http://www.youtube.com/user/taramop

It is not only the first few laps and it is not sophisticated   ::) but it works pretty


Thank you and good evening to all

gravityblock

Quote from: Airstriker on January 16, 2010, 04:04:20 PM
It's not an exception. This is simply how it is in soft materials. If you're trying to explain things, be precise. Also I haven't seen anobody here being confused beacuse of Sean's words that they are using magnetically soft material. If you were, then it simply means you lack the knowledge about these materials. But if you don't have time to learn, simply read what I've written about metglas properties in my post about Back EMF. Also does the word Hysteresis mean anything to you ?
By the way, sorry for the coil radius issue - as Paul said it was strangly treated in that calculator. See? Admitting you are wrong is not that hard ;]

Edit:
One more thing. By saying that I didn't put anything to the subject you went to far. Please provide us some more videos or links to Adam's motor...

High remanence means it retains some or all of it's magnetism after an external field is removed.  That was the exception paul was referring to when I said soft materials don't retain it's magnetism after an external field is removed.  There are so many different properties in different materials that it would take an entire book to get a statement right about all of them.  This is why we speak in general terms.  If we didn't, then we would have a very difficult time in communicating.  Languages are not perfect.

I've also read what you wrote about metglas and BEMF.  It's good to see you came to the same conclusion I had prior to you writing that, although you won't admit it.

I also admitted way back I was wrong about there being an inner and outer core, but I never stated it as fact and only suggested it as a possible solution.  I also corrected myself about the dual magnets not having to be like poles, but could be opposite poles.

This isn't about being right/wrong or somewhere in between.  This is about cracking this nut so we can achieve OU.  Let's put this childish behavior behind us and work together while overlooking each other's errors, shortcomings, mistakes, etc. without bashing or trying to make someone look bad just because you have a different opinion.  It is for our own benefit to do this and most of us here are serious about the issue at hand.

Let's work together instead of against each other.  We will get more done this way.


GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

darkspeed

Quote from: taramop on January 16, 2010, 04:19:42 PM
Hello to all
A new proto Orbo was born yesterday evening :D

If you want I invite you to see the first videos on the small:

http://www.youtube.com/user/taramop

It is not only the first few laps and it is not sophisticated   ::) but it works pretty


Thank you and good evening to all

Wow! Nice! Having shot a cyliner neo magnet through a wall into the next room before let me say "BE CAREFUL" with that kind of rpm!