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[captainpecan]

If Ozzie's torroidless system is using the Bedini effect/radiant energy, Bedini himself says that you can't use the same battery for driving and charging. It's in one of the Energy from the Vacuum videos. Does anyone remember that?

My point is that maybe it's not the Bedini effect.

I remember what your talking about completely.  But, when you follow the history of bedini's devices, there were many he worked on that did in fact feed back to source.  Like his early devices, also from the same 1984-1985 time frame that he also refers to when discussing his zero force motor.  Here is also a link showing some of his work using a feedback to source... http://www.icehouse.net/john1/foreward.html

So honestly, when he states in the energy from vacuum series not to feed back to source, he could simply be discussing the effects coming from the SSG style circuits, and possibly not the same as his zero force.  As I have experienced, the SSG  charge battery builds it's energy at rest a great deal, where the zero force is different.  It could be possible that in an SSG style, it is the battery drawing in the free energy in the long run, where in the other styles it is being drawn in elsewhere in the circuit.  Maybe??

Not really sure, just spitting out food for thought.  But an aircore coil should show almost zero eddy currents, which could be a reason to get such high efficiency, although the generator effect you would assume would be much less effective with no core.  I'm kinda baffled to tell you the truth.  That battery should be going down, and it would seem that is not even enough current to build a strong enough field to even push that rotor.  But this is obviously not the case.  Great stuff!

[gravityblock]

There are so many errors in this page alone that I wouldn't even know where to start, LOL. "Reset current"?  Studying "effective permeability" will help a lot of people here. The core is not a square loop for open magnetic loops, which is the case for the magnet to core interaction. And it doesn't matter because the reason the core is square loop is because it takes hardly no longitudinal applied field to flip it. ... I don't even want to spend the time to help people here anymore because it's a hopeless cause. Good luck! 

You will see on this page a small reset current with the Metgls MAGAMP square loop cores are needed, http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_6_4.htm

Metglas SQUARE LOOP:

* Low Saturated Permeability
* Low Coercive Field - indicating a small reset current
* Low Profile - enabling weight and volume reduction of up to 50%
* Low Loss - resulting from micro-thin Metglas® ribbon (18µm)

I apologize to all for posting this since it appears there is progress being made at this time.  It's not my intent on throwing a monkey wrench into things.  I'm just really tired of being insulted when I post information I believe is important.  In the end, it may be important and it may not be important, but we have to sort through all of the information to decide on the best approach to take.  I have no other agenda other than posting information I think will be beneficial at some point in time.

Keep up the good work on the testing,


GB

[penno64]

Hi All,

Please forgive my newbieness, but I want to ask this question -

As the stator toroid sees the rotor A, the voltage/current generated fed to a cap, then, the cap discharged back into toroid to make it invisible to the magnet on departure?

I know it maybe the cart before the horse, but I think you know what I am asking.

Is that what makes an Adam's motor or is that what makes Bedini's coil motor work with such little power

Also, is that why Ossie's motor use near nothing ?

Regards, Penno

[callanan]

I remember what your talking about completely.  But, when you follow the history of bedini's devices, there were many he worked on that did in fact feed back to source.  Like his early devices, also from the same 1984-1985 time frame that he also refers to when discussing his A force motor.  Here is also a link showing some of his work using a feedback to source... http://www.icehouse.net/john1/foreward.html

So honestly, when he states in the energy from vacuum series not to feed back to source, he could simply be discussing the effects coming from the SSG style circuits, and possibly not the same as his A force.  As I have experienced, the SSG  charge battery builds it's energy at rest a great deal, where the zero force is different.  It could be possible that in an SSG style, it is the battery drawing in the free energy in the long run, where in the other styles it is being drawn in elsewhere in the circuit.  Maybe??

Not really sure, just spitting out food for thought.  But an aircore coil should show almost zero eddy currents, which could be a reason to get such high efficiency, although the generator effect you would assume would be much less effective with no core.  I'm kinda baffled to tell you the truth.  That battery should be going down, and it would seem that is not even enough current to build a strong enough field to even push that rotor.  But this is obviously not the case.  Great stuff!

Hi CP,

I have had a great deal of experience with radiant energy circuits and devices and Bedini motors. This motor doesn't appear to be working like any of them. This motor shows real current and not radiant energy spikes going back into the battery as can be seen in the first scope trace below that was taken directly across the battery.

A key to the effect appears to be the need to pulse the coils at the peak of the generator pulse as can be seen in the second scope trace below. But you also need to try and make sure that the pulse turns off as close as possible to the absolute peak voltage of the generator pulse. When you do this, the back emf somehow appears to combine with the generator pulse at the peak and provide real current back into the battery via the two back emf recovery diodes.

At the moment, the battery has now gone UP two millivolts with the RPM constant!!!

Will let it run all night and see what we have in the morning...

Regards,

Ossie

[gravityblock]

@Ossie:

The stuff you post is always amazing and fascinating.  I'm very impressed and have learned so much from your posts.  I hope you have a self-runner.

Thanks,

GB