STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Jimboot]

The d cell is losing about .01v per hour. The voltage is now at 1.19 doing 1800RPM. Have to go to bed. Will leave running overnight.

[PaulLowrance]

Hi Paul,

I'm refering to:
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/01/19/tiny-orbo-replication-170-efficient/

I'm pleased to find accurate measurements and calculus here. I perfectly agree with the method you are using to evaluate the COP.

Nevertheless I see a possible flaw in the data so I have a question: how do you estimate the coil inductance during pulse?

The inductance depends on both the magnet position and the current in the coil. From my own experiments, I found that the inductance can drastically change from one to less than one tenth with a coil current around 1 A, because the current participates in saturating the ferrite core.

At the begining of the pulse, the effect of the current onto the ferrite permeability is not yet established, thus inductance should be much higher than later and it will not change instantly. I'm afraid that we have to integrate 0.5*d(L*i²)/dt² over the pulse duration to get the right power instead of using a mean inductance value which is possibly irrelevant.

Hi,

I just posted a reply here,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8707.msg225721#msg225721

[PaulLowrance]

I was hoping someone would have done some efficiency - cop measurements on the ossie device by now. As an example, people were being wowed by the Joule Thief videos, and even I was impressed by some, but then I tested the best / biggest Joule Thief claim, and it was far far below 100% efficiency. So battery measurements are to only wow people, and are often misleading. I have confidence you people can do it! 

[captainpecan]

The d cell is losing about .01v per hour. The voltage is now at 1.19 doing 1800RPM. Have to go to bed. Will leave running overnight.

I did not realize with my last post that your batteries were not going down any more than they are.  .01 volts per hour is not bad at all, and I'd say it's tuned pretty damn well.  The extra rpms you are getting MAY indicate the pulse width is a bit wide, but to be honest we are at about the same stage in our replications so I really have no advice.  Mine is running longer with a little less loss in voltage.  But yours is running about 9 times faster than mine is also.  Please share your scope shots when you get 'em!  Congrats on your replication so far, your almost there!

[captainpecan]

Well...  I sure don't mean to be negative.  But Steorn PROOF of OU was pretty disappointing to me.  That demonstration is going to catch quite a bit of criticism everywhere.  God forbid they just measure the damn thing input to output.  Hell, they could have at least showed a multimeter hooked to the battery showing an increase in voltage.  That's not to much to ask.  He says it's over 300% efficient electrically, there is no reason at all that could not be easily shown with a $10 multimeter attached to the battery.

As a replicator, I was really pulling for them to come out and actually prove something.  And they did that.  They proved that they obviously do not care to prove anything.  I'm very disappointed, and all I can say is that I'm extremely grateful that Ossie showed his finds, because Steorn pretty much lost a ton of respect on this demo, at least from me.  I think I'm wasting my time if I spend 1 more second on my Orbo replication.  This was a joke.  Sorry guys, I hate posting negative thoughts, but I have a feeling I'm not alone on this one.

Even though I do not agree with Pauls COP measurements and do not feel it proves OU, his results were probably hands down a much better attempt of proof than Steorn's FINAL DEMO OF PROOF OF OU!  That was a spit in the eye for the free energy movement that Steorn just dealt us all.