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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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forsalebabyshoesneverworn

Here is what I don't understand, and maybe someone can explain it to me.  I am not that smart at electrical and battery things, but I am looking at it from a business perspective.

Why is Steorn selling this thing they way they are?  Seriously, why sell the SKDB memberships?  419 Euro?  Small potatoes.  They are allegedly sitting on a multi-billion (trillion?) dollar idea, and the best they can come up with is "here, pay us a little money and we will teach you how it works and then you make it work."

If they have what they say they have, they surely went about it the worst possible way as far as making money.

What they should have done is make a damn generator and sell it.  It would sell like hotcakes!  They would all be billionaires overnight.  Instead, we have this crap with oscilloscopes and batteries and all that rubbish.  Is it overunity or isnt it?  Why even go there?  Just make a generator, I say.

Gearhead

Quote from: forsalebabyshoesneverworn on February 03, 2010, 11:50:48 AM
Here is what I don't understand, and maybe someone can explain it to me.  I am not that smart at electrical and battery things, but I am looking at it from a business perspective.

Why is Steorn selling this thing they way they are? 

If they have what they say they have, they surely went about it the worst possible way as far as making money.


There are issues larger than making money.  If Steorn is right and they have found overunity, this will be a complete world changing invention.
There are many established special interests that stand to lose especially in the energy field.  Fosssil fuels will become obsolete.
Yet, it is in the best interest of the world environment to make the change.
Steorn realizes they have an obligation to their fellow men to make the technology available regardless of the risk.
This method of release of the idea is the least risky for them because the whole world knows the intellectual property at once.

Pirate88179

Quote from: forsalebabyshoesneverworn on February 03, 2010, 11:50:48 AM
Here is what I don't understand, and maybe someone can explain it to me.  I am not that smart at electrical and battery things, but I am looking at it from a business perspective.

Why is Steorn selling this thing they way they are?  Seriously, why sell the SKDB memberships?  419 Euro?  Small potatoes.  They are allegedly sitting on a multi-billion (trillion?) dollar idea, and the best they can come up with is "here, pay us a little money and we will teach you how it works and then you make it work."

If they have what they say they have, they surely went about it the worst possible way as far as making money.

What they should have done is make a damn generator and sell it.  It would sell like hotcakes!  They would all be billionaires overnight.  Instead, we have this crap with oscilloscopes and batteries and all that rubbish.  Is it overunity or isnt it?  Why even go there?  Just make a generator, I say.

In my opinion, you answered your own question.  Why don't they make and sell an OU generator?  Because they can't.  IF they could, they would.  Nothing else makes sense to me about their business model if this is not correct.

Again, just my opinion.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

mscoffman

Quote from: forsalebabyshoesneverworn on February 03, 2010, 11:50:48 AM
Here is what I don't understand, and maybe someone can explain it to me.  I am not that smart at electrical and battery things, but I am looking at it from a business perspective.

Why is Steorn selling this thing they way they are?  Seriously, why sell the SKDB memberships?  419 Euro?  Small potatoes.  They are allegedly sitting on a multi-billion (trillion?) dollar idea, and the best they can come up with is "here, pay us a little money and we will teach you how it works and then you make it work."

If they have what they say they have, they surely went about it the worst possible way as far as making money.

What they should have done is make a damn generator and sell it.  It would sell like hotcakes!  They would all be billionaires overnight.  Instead, we have this crap with oscilloscopes and batteries and all that rubbish.  Is it overunity or isnt it?  Why even go there?  Just make a generator, I say.

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My opinon IMHO is that they are operating blind; What is Orbo? This
time they have demonstrated something with sufficient complexity
to include something which has overunity energy potential.

He has indeed not demonstrated a self-runner. But I feel he could
by stringing two units together in series. A rechargable battery
is almost a necessity. The key is extracting excess energy while the
unit runs and dissipating it through a fixed known external load. The
load need not be matched to the generating capacity of the particular
unit, in fact, should be in excess of it. Since energy has a time
derivative, a timer clock would be included to record how long
the load is turned on vs off. Known batteries with fixed chemistries
and volumes, and voltages have near identical capacities, so load
clock run time would eventually demonstrate energy in excess of
battery capacity.

So he should skip the theory, and demonstrate what the end user
really wants to see. Experiments always tend to educate theory
anyway.

:S:MarkSCoffman

lumen

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 03, 2010, 12:10:52 PM
In my opinion, you answered your own question.  Why don't they make and sell an OU generator?  Because they can't.  IF they could, they would.  Nothing else makes sense to me about their business model if this is not correct.

Again, just my opinion.

Bill

They have only a prototype model. It cannot produce enough energy to sell in it's current state and they cannot continue to develop it at the current rate or they would never turn a profit.
It needs to be accepted and advanced by mechanical engineers to build efficient designs, electrical engineers to design efficient electronics, magnetic material designers to find the most efficient core materials, analytical engineers to find the best core shape and layout.

So why can't they just build it and sell it? Because it is not efficient in it's current prototype state!