STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Omega_0]

I must agree with you guys. The "lag" seems to be really due to high L during startup of the pulse. The pulse rises slow till the L drops to 0.1, where it takes off till L drops to 0.0015. The rise is so fast that it looks like the pulse starts there.

Luckily we also have confirmation from PL and JLN (His scope below). And the last plot shows guessed current with manually plugged values of L (Green line), which matches the trend. So I can confirm that :
Start L (In presence of a magnet) = 0.25 H or more
End L (In presence of the magent+pulse) = 0.0015 H
R = 5.1 ohm, V=12.28 V and I(peak) = 2.38 A

JLN is using ferrite (mu=6000) not metglas, and he is still getting the same response. So my current guess is, a sharp BH curve matters more than high mu. One should experiment with both metglas and other materials. Most of the energy (non-ohmic) is being spent during this "lag", so one must minimize the 0.5*L*I^2 here.

So now this is out of the way, and it seems the statements of steorn are making sense bit by bit. If you can show that small details of their claim are true, chances of their claim of OU being true increases.

[teslaalset]

@Omega_O,
Glad our views converge 
Keep in mind that sharp rising B-H curve corresponds with high mu at certain B, H situations:

B= mu x H, and therefore:
delta mu = delta B / delta H

[Omnibus]

@Omega_0,

Excellent analysis. Now, that makes sense.

Like I said, I'm not too concerned with the contribution of L, however. From purely scientific point of view, even with the L as it is, the output energy is over three times the net input energy and that's the significant fact. Wish JNL and everybody else with a similar motor apply the same methodology Steorn have shown us, to see if they'll get that much of excess energy, if at all. Wonder what a regular pulse motor (non-Orbo) would give when studied by that methodology?

[Omnibus]

I think if Steorn happen to be reading here, I'd like to tell them that it would be in their best interest to invite @Omega_0 and @ teslaalset for a visit. Also, @MrEntropy. That would be a part of a third party verification of their Orbo claims by really competent fellows.

[teslaalset]

@Omega_0,
Excellent analysis. Now, that makes sense.

Totally agree with that. Good job!

Wonder what a regular pulse motor (non-Orbo) would give when studied by that methodology?

The more I understand Orbo, the more I think Bedini already was the original source of this all. Bedini always advertised soft iron (many small diameter rods pulled together to avoid Eddy Current losses). I wonder whether he used himself soft iron for his working machines.
Even with soft iron you can make use of the changing mu and magnetic viscosity, but it's much harder to prove because the max. COP will be much less compared to MetGlas alike core materials