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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Omnibus

@IceStorm,

The very well known fact is that the active resistance neither of the coil nor of Rin changes with frequency. Active resistance. Focus on it and don't argue further. Read again what @Omega_0 told you, namely,

Quotethe real power dissipation is always resistive.

Best, read again the whole answer by @Omega_0 to you:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.msg243922#msg243922

IceStorm

Quote from: Omnibus on June 07, 2010, 11:22:50 AM
@IceStorm,

The very well known fact is that the active resistance neither of the coil nor of Rin changes with frequency. Active resistance. Focus on it and don't argue further. Read again what @Omega_0 told you, namely,

Best, read again the whole answer by @Omega_0 to you:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.msg243922#msg243922

Omg lol , continue your experiment , at the end you will finally understand what i said to you.

IceStorm

Omnibus

@Omega_0,

I understand that the greater the Rin is the more accurate the measurements are, however, like I said, greater Rin interferes with the circuit which produces the OU. Rin is in fact parasitic active resistance which we try to avoid in order to get the OU effect. The only way to avoid it is to have an independent, external way of measuring current, say, by using Hall effect.

I'll have the probe hopefully on Wednesday but here's another problem--my scope requires the probe to have an external power supply which Tektronix don't have in stock. The power supply was ordered from another company which luckily happens to have ordered it previously for other clients. They said the lead time in principle is couple of weeks but may come any time. May arrive even tomorrow, so this brings a bit of suspense to the excitement which is here to begin with.

Omnibus

Quote from: IceStorm on June 07, 2010, 11:25:50 AM
Omg lol , continue your experiment , at the end you will finally understand what i said to you.

IceStorm

You are a bit confused and similar confusion has led some people to not fully understand the importance of what Steorn really do. Of course, now after these latest findings we're discussing here Steorn's technological aspect is moot but the way they calculate their input and output power is impeccable. As I've said many times, they are way ahead of everybody regarding the rigor of their experiments, one of the elements of which is the correct understanding that the Ohmic resistance does not change with frequency. Don't bother with impedance. Impedance does change with frequency, but that's immaterial, as @Omega_0 explained. Show evidence of Ohmic resistance changing with frequency.

Not to say that frequencies of 50Hz, let alone 1Hz are negligible even if there were frequency dependency of the Ohmic resistance.

IceStorm

you stated:  (Iin)^2(Rin + Rprimary)  but what it should be is (Iin)^2(Rin + XL).

Here another link you should REALLY look at :

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/acind.html#c2