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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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blueplanet

Folks, sorry I have to hijack this thread again. If u know any OU device that is proven working beyond doubt, please let me know by posting here or PM me. I am not looking for any speculative device that is still under investigation.

Omega_0

Quote from: teslaalset on July 01, 2010, 04:58:04 PM
@Omega,

E=P*t
PR=I2*R
ER=I2*R*t
(in case of DC, otherwise it becomes more complicated, integrals are used)

Additions in the spreadsheet are correct.

Thanks to you and blueplanet for correcting the mistake, I missed the 'dt' there.
Anyway the results add up now. At least theoretically, you can safely say there is no OU in an RC circuit fed by a sine wave. We should use the same approach with real data also. Take into account the energy stored in reactive components.
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

teslaalset

Quote from: gravityblock on July 01, 2010, 08:51:25 PM
This whole theory thing was to make a comparison between theory and experiments.  We haven't been able to do a comparison between theory and the RC data from Ominibus's experiments yet (we won't be able to do this comparison until Omni releases the RC Data.  It hasn't been released due to a problem with his current excel configuration or installation.  The great scientists of the past didn't have access to a Hall effect current probe, advanced DSO's, and modernized computer systems to do heavy calculations in order to find any discrepancies in theory.
GB

GB, that is an excellent summary of what is going on here.
We are not trying to prove OU is in the theory.
It's just to find comparison between theory and findings.
Ok, sometimes people got excited because even theory seems to have OU, but, hey, sometimes mistakes are made. We are only humans.

@skcusitrah, welcome to OU.
You dropped in pretty harsh, but nevertheless, thanks for stepping in.
Keep in mind that some people here are highly respected and contributing to this forum already for many years.
We want to keep them on board and not see them leaving because of lack of respect by confronting them with overruling knowledge they also might have, but only visible over the many posts they have made.
It's not about who is the smartest kid in the class here, it's about who is the most creative and out of the box thinking.
We have seen some excellent members leaving due to silly fights on who is smarter, we don't want that happening here.

broli

Quote from: Omega_0 on July 02, 2010, 01:34:12 AM
Thanks to you and blueplanet for correcting the mistake, I missed the 'dt' there.
Anyway the results add up now. At least theoretically, you can safely say there is no OU in an RC circuit fed by a sine wave. We should use the same approach with real data also. Take into account the energy stored in reactive components.

That energy stored is your initial condition in the equation I have posted earlier. It just determines the position of the graph not the slope. Since we have enough math now I'm eager to make the comparison between experiments.

Omega_0

Quote from: blueplanet on July 01, 2010, 09:35:25 PM
Folks, sorry I have to hijack this thread again. If u know any OU device that is proven working beyond doubt, please let me know by posting here or PM me. I am not looking for any speculative device that is still under investigation.

There is no such thing as a working OU device :)
All stuff here or anywhere on the net is either speculative, fraud, sensationalized hyped things or at most a sincere attempt.
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison