Mostly Permanent Magnet Motor with minimal Input Power

[gotoluc]

Luc, Aren't you just getting closer and closer to 100 % efficiency ? And when you get the best possible efficiency you can get won't
that be the closest to 100 % efficient you can get ? Is there an efficiency rating for those lifts and what an OU lift would figure as ?

Please forgive my "Apparent skepticism" and feel free to ignore my questions if you wish.

Good questions Farmhand and I'm glad you brought it up as this post will hopefully clear the air on this.

I've already said that I would be surprised if this design could be 100% efficient or even OU. How can it be since the generator effect is present in this design. So the more magnet power surface area this design has, the more generator effect it also has, which you should know is a braking effect on the speed the coil can move.

I understood this before building the new Super build. So why build it?... because I already had all the magnets and wire purchased to build it 5 years ago. The other reason is, if we never build and just trust what science says then we can never claim we personally know.
And a better reason is, maybe this design technology can be used to make the most powerful Solenoid action yet available?

I ask everyone to please research a Solenoid Pull or Push force to see how many Kg. the existing technology can pull per Watt.  Please post the best scores you can find.

One thing you also need to keep in mind is Solenoids may hold a certain amount of weight once the center core has reached it's resting position. However, they can only pull a fraction of that weight at the beginning of their stroke.
The Triple M does not suffer from this limitation as it's pull or push force is equal throughout it's 1 inch stroke.

So there you have it, this should answer more then enough questions people may have as to why I went though the time and trouble of building this.

Don't get me wrong, I will test it for OU ptential by seeing if it's own coil weight (2.35kg) can travel up 1mm against gravity.
The below amount of Joule energy is for the 100% efficiency mark. It has been calculated by Khwartz
post: http://www.overunity.com/8429/mostly-permanent-magnet-motor-with-minimal-input-power/msg418177/#msg418177

W [J] = 2.35 [kg] × ~10 [m.s^-2] × 1/1000 [m]

= 23.5/1000 [kg.m^2.s^-2] = 0.0235 [J]


Luc

[gotoluc]

@Gotoluc,

Are "2 series strands" the same as "Series bifilar"? I forecast a very exciting historical precedent on the approaching horizon!

Yes!... same as Series bifilar

Luc

[i_ron]

Hi everyone,

here is a quick 2nd test of the Triple M Super build.

Luc

Great experiment Luc, nicely done!


Ron

[gotoluc]

Here is a chart of what a tipical Solenoid can pull of grams per watts.

The % is is on time and notice as the stroke increases the pull force drops.

Here is the link to the pdf. http://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/datasheets/Robotics/ZHO-420S.pdf

So I challenge everyone to find the most powerful specs. you can find and post them.
I would be surprised you can even come close to what the 1" build can do!

Luc 

[synchro1]

Quote from Gotoluc:


"The 8 inch Super build single coil one stand gave a result of 2Kg Pull for 0.43 Watts, and now the 8 inch Super build single coil 2 series stands gave a result of 2.5Kg Pull for 0.43 Watts"!


Luc's test results prove conclusively that the value of Tesla's "Coil for Electromagnets" is genuine and not imaginary as falsely claimed by some.