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Overunity Machines Forum



Mostly Permanent Magnet Motor with minimal Input Power

Started by gotoluc, December 07, 2009, 05:32:38 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 17, 2014, 10:04:00 PM
your formulae do not agree.

Can you really measure voltage on a capacitor to the tens of microvolts precision? I am jealous.
You're not jealous!... you're sarcastic ;)

btw, the meter was on 5 digit display but it can do 6 digits after the decimal point if I select it. However, I didn't think I needed to be that picky, mostly if I'm making no claims!... also, is formulae the correct way to write formula?

gotoluc

Quote from: tinman on October 17, 2014, 10:58:51 PM
Luc-why is the coil sliding so slowly up the guide's?. It almost looks as though the slides are coated in honey or something ??? . Have you taken into accound the friction on those slides?-there seems to be to much friction there.

P.S-just watched the video again,and even when coming back down it seem'd very slow,regardless of weather or not you where collecting the BEMF. How fast dose it fall with the recapture cap's disconected(free fall)>?

Hey Brad,

what you're observing is the generator effect that I've been talking about. When I connect the coil lead to the super cap, as the coil moves up current is also produced in the coil while moving in the powerful magnetic field, so it's also trying to charge the supper cap as it's being fed by the super cap, so it's a slow climb uphill ;D
So you're observing a very noticeable generator effect because of such a strong magnet field the coil is in and why this cannot go to OU.
If only there was a way to have separate power source leads (unlink) to each coil lead, one for positive and one for negative, then the current the coil produces as it moves would have nowhere to go and the coil would move freely. But how could current flow if the positive and negative if they are not linked?
Maybe EV Gray found a way to do that and the link used the environment to complete the circuit by a super abrupt discharge of some kind?

When the coil comes back down, the same thing is going on. It's charging a 12,200uF cap bank from zero to 7.5vdc, so it's fall is being dampened by this load. Without the cap it crashes back down like a falling 2.35kg weight would. The guides are working just fine ;)
I think GM Corvette had shock absorbers working under this principal?... ReGen shock absorbers would be a good option if you have an off road electric racing car.

Hope this clears up the visual effect?

Luc

tinman

Quote from: gotoluc on October 17, 2014, 11:19:30 PM
Hey Brad,

what you're observing is the generator effect that I've been talking about. When I connect the coil lead to the super cap, as the coil moves up current is also produced in the coil while moving in that powerful magnetic field, so it's also trying to charge the supper cap as it's being fed by the super cap, so it's a slow climb uphill ;D
So now you're observing a visual of this effect and why this cannot go to OU.
If only there was a way to have separate power source leads (unlink) to each coil lead, one for positive and one for negative, then the current the coil produces as it moves would have no where to go and the coil would move freely. But how could current flow if the positive and negative arn't linked?
Maybe EV Gray found a way to do that and the link is using the environment to complete the circuit by a super abrupt discharge of some kind?

When the coil comes back down the same thing is going on. It's charging a 12,200uF cap bank from zero to 7.5vdc, so it's fall is being dampened by this load. Without the cap it crashes back down like a falling 2.35kg weight would. The guides are working just fine ;)
I think GM Corvette had shock absorbers working under this principal?... ReGen shock absorbers would be a good option if you have an off road electric racing car.

Hope this clears up the visual effect?

Luc
Mmm-ok,so this is working much like the maglev train dose.\
Quote: So now you're observing a visual of this effect and why this cannot go to OU.
If only there was a way to have separate power source lead's.

Wait just a minute there-lets not give up yet,as i believe there is a way to fix this problem. You have done before what is needed here Luc,and now you must do it again.It's time to put the effects of two of your projects together. You need to offset the voltage and current by 180* during the P/in cycle to your coil,so your going to need a pulsed input at the right frequency for your setup. As you know,when you switch of an inductor,the current will keep flowing in the same direction,BUT the voltage polarity will reverse-->If only there was a way to have separate power source lead's.
You dont need seperate lead's,as one set will do both job's,but you have to get the offset and frequency right for that coil.Normally with an air core inductor(coil) you would need a high frequency,but with that strong magnetic field i think the frequency needed would be quite low.

First to nut out a circuit to do the job,then find the right frequency to offset the current and voltage.To do this you need to fully understand as to what happens when an inductors P/in is suddenly cut off when running with a 180* current/voltage offset in the strong magnetic field it is in.This is something i dont remember anyone here ever looking into,or try doing. But i have actually done this myself,although the setup was a little different. I believe i called that particular project the magneformer-not quite sure,as it was some time ago. I remember showing TK my result's at being able to get a 180* offset of current over voltage,and if i remember rightly,he said i was creating a standing wave within the unit.This way i was able to maintain a continuous current flow within the inductor,but charge a cap with an opposite potential than that of my P/in-useing the same two wires. The circuit wasnt all to different to that of the SSG,which basically dose the exact same thing if you look at how the circuit work's-the negative of the charge battery is hooked to the positive of the run battery.

I guess the thing you will need to make this work is a signal generator-do you have one of these?.

gotoluc

Hi Brad,

a 180 degrees phase shift is not an easy thing to get!... but I'll play around with my smaller one inch build as the cores in it are transformer laminations and should work better then the solid steel cores in the Super build.

I'll post what I find

Luc

synchro1

Quote from: synchro1 on October 16, 2014, 10:16:17 AM
Take a well wrapped bifilar solenoid coil connected serially with a welding rod core. Hang a steel carving knife by a string. Aim the center of the coil at the dangling knife and pulse it like you would a Leedskalnin device shorting the coil across a 12 volt battery. Watch what happens to the knife. Next, move the coil further away and try it again. This laser dimension magnet wave was broadcasted and received by Tesla at a distance of 40 miles from his downtown laboratory to West Point on line of sight. This was the first wireless transmission in History!. The broadcast and receiver coils were identical and both were grounded. The wave carried power that Tesla believed traveled through the ground! 

I re-discovered this effect by accident as I've recounted in the past: My first shop wound bifilar coil, 350 turns of 22 gauge, with welding rod core slid around ten feet to collide with a cutlery box that was drawn an equal distance along my kitchen counter, from one direct short pulse. The experience was traumatic! The magnetic force produced this way had nothing whatsoever to do with the customary D.C. Joule to coil flux ratios. Try it!
Here's a picture of a magnetic ray: