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Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev

Started by hartiberlin, December 08, 2009, 01:45:22 PM

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nickle989

Super God ... It is based on a ducted wind turbine.  I can not go into details at this time.

Low-Q - yes that is what I was thinking also ... one will need to use some magnetic shielding also other wise any help will be lost.  One could use lead for a half circle a sphere would be better ... this would serve as weight also.

I have started thinking on calculations also.  One needs to consider weight of the wheel etc and the amount of energy just needed to turn it along with anything that is attached to it.  And then gravity.

Another thought is an elipticle orbit ( think of a smot ).. look at planetary system it works on this principal because it needs to.  Earth's magnetisphere  place an import part.

I will build a round one first and then an oval one  .... if you can build up the speed and then sling shot it quickly to break free it should work.

gdez

@nickle 989
Have you read this?
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Von_Braun.htm
Very interestesting and in many of my simulations of the milkovic based  ideas, l see the elliptical orbit keeps popping up.

Low-Q

Quote from: nickle989 on April 12, 2011, 09:05:22 AM
Super God ... It is based on a ducted wind turbine.  I can not go into details at this time.

Low-Q - yes that is what I was thinking also ... one will need to use some magnetic shielding also other wise any help will be lost.  One could use lead for a half circle a sphere would be better ... this would serve as weight also.

I have started thinking on calculations also.  One needs to consider weight of the wheel etc and the amount of energy just needed to turn it along with anything that is attached to it.  And then gravity.

Another thought is an elipticle orbit ( think of a smot ).. look at planetary system it works on this principal because it needs to.  Earth's magnetisphere  place an import part.

I will build a round one first and then an oval one  .... if you can build up the speed and then sling shot it quickly to break free it should work.
Magnetic shielding will not help here. The shield will also weaken the magnetic field which was suppose to attract the weight in addition to do the shielding part... Well, there is no way around gravity or magnets this way. The sum of forces will cancel out into nothing. Any weight that is limited to travel the same path, oval or circular, it is limited to the same difference in altitude, and therfor also limited to gain the same potential energy as the kinetic energy. These two will cancel out and not be able to provide excess force which possibly could do some work over distance.

Vidar

nickle989

Quote from: gdez on April 12, 2011, 07:09:52 PM
@nickle 989
Have you read this?
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Von_Braun.htm
Very interestesting and in many of my simulations of the milkovic based  ideas, l see the elliptical orbit keeps popping up.

Yes ran into this awhile ago ... gave it another read though.  Funny how science quickly forgets to relate items together .... they could have looked at why they put rifling grooves in a gun ... to spin the bullet for accuracy and distance.  This was proven way way back ... lol

But the degree's mentioned have great merit along with HD play.

nickle989

Quote from: Low-Q on April 13, 2011, 12:01:51 PM
Magnetic shielding will not help here. The shield will also weaken the magnetic field which was suppose to attract the weight in addition to do the shielding part... Well, there is no way around gravity or magnets this way. The sum of forces will cancel out into nothing. Any weight that is limited to travel the same path, oval or circular, it is limited to the same difference in altitude, and therfor also limited to gain the same potential energy as the kinetic energy. These two will cancel out and not be able to provide excess force which possibly could do some work over distance.

Vidar

I will beg to differ, the shielding is there to prevent the magnetic attraction from going through to the other sister weight ... when concentrating the magnetic beam to a point it will act as a pivot point and easy to tip and with ratching setup it can't go back which would then give the other magnet to pull up more. Try balancing 3 pencils, you can with 2, with 3 you are always trying to find a balance point the magnet is like the third pencil (A chat with David Hamel many years ago, which was never a spinning disk like some think but a vibrating one that could never find balance)  An eliptical orbit is also important as one wants to change the in a sling shot effect. 

Expanding on the theory ... Earth's gravity will also need to be converted to Frequency and then the secondary planetary will need to run beyond that ... I can't convert the Frequency until the final size and distance is measured. We also want to be able to use the Earth's stored inertia so the overall unit should be running to the east thus capitalizing on the Earth's speed spin  which can also be converted to Frequency.

The wheel should be a spoke wheel that way the energy is stored on the outside .

There are a couple of other things that I think can contribute also, but I will wait until I have it built and try it ... that way if it fails I don't look to bad ... and if it works then it make me look like a genius ...lol