Hairpin Project

[resonanceman]

Resonanceman, that is a good observation.  There have been such arrays used, but the only ones I have seen myself were internal devices at IBM.  They had very specific "Problems" that occured because of some of the "Strange" properties.  I'm sure you have heard of "Bubble Memory".  Though I am not privy to the exact details, those two concepts are related.

Nice to see someone really starting to understand "Real" radiant energy, and you are 100% correct in what you say.  That is where you have to start, as all of the EE learning was a real problem in understanding.  Just trying to use standard components is a pain.  (Have learned a little.  Seems that flat coils with component at field focus point is helpful, but I have no practical info yet.  Just a couple testing results that I don't fully understand myself, YET.)

For info, RE  (OK, I'll use it.  I prefer other terms.) WILL operate at low voltage, however, the effects are so misunderstood that they are hard to work with at a low level.  Compare to arcing a spark gap.  Easier to work with several thousand volts.  The spark can exist at much lower levels, but is usually not visable.  See where I'm going.....

I'm also pleased to see you have seen the frequency difference between EM resonance and RE resonance.  I am thinking this points to a speed difference, but that is only theory.  If accurate, there is MUCH more here than meets the eye. (Add Beardon into the mix, and it all gets too heavy for me, but I can still learn the basics.)  Just think how many have wound / built "Tesla" coils, trying to tune them via "Normal" resonance......  And to think there are people out there that still think there is no information suppression......  I'm currently stuck in the relationship between heaviside and RE effects.  Not sure how they fit together but they do indicate what is really going on.  Big area of study.  Very interesting.

Loner

I do remember  reading that bubble memory started out as a problem.
I do not remember any of the  details either.


I see what  you mean about the spark gap.......... I personaly do not like spark gaps........  It has been a goal of mine for a few years now to come up with different way to do the  same things a spark gap does.
If  I can do that ........ lower voltage radiant energy could get much easier.



What you said about people making Tesla coils is interesting.
Before I  found this site I wanted to build a Tesla coil.
I went to a site where people were making  lots of different Tesla coils..........some  of them were very large.

Although they were called Tesla coils  they were something different to me.
I tried to talk about it  and  was told very bluntly that they had made  many Tesla  coils  and  they knew what  they were  doing.

They insisted that  a properly made Tesla coil should make  an irragular noise.
I say a Tesla coil  is a tuned circuit ......it should  have a smooth even sound.

They described making  a rotary spark gap  on a fixed speed motor.
For  a Tesla coil to be in resonance  the make and break  of the spark gap must  be in sinc with the resonance. I saw no evidence that they were even trying to synchronize  the spark gap

I ended up  not making a Tesla coil because  all of the  coils I saw just seemed wrong.


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I have  spent some time on Beardens site........ I can't follow the math ..........but I think I have the general idea  down.

gary

[Mk1]

@Gary

So to start , we need some type of kooler hybrid circuit.

I was thinking your flyback jt to feed the cap , i think i will fill the cap faster the the jeanna light toroid.

This may well raise the freq enough to get started on the hairpin circuit.

Before replacing the spark gap , we need to learn from it .

Btw one of my favorite part of the movie is the jump rope example...

Keep the good work !

Mark 

[resonanceman]

Resman
I see what you saw in vid 2 about the resonances in a coil. I didnt quite catch that the first time around.
Thanks for pointing it out.
I have to watch all those vids again.
The one where Chris talks about transformer cores, I wish he had given an answer to that. I dont get it.

Thanks Resman

Mags

Mags

I wound not have caught that .......except  I have   had the idea  of radiant  energy  simmering  in the back of my mind for a few years now ........
I saw it and it was likle .............aaaahhhhh that is why  I have had so little luck........I was missing a major piece of the puzzle.


About the transformer explanation.
I think you got it .......by not  getting it.


I think his whole point  was nobody gets it .



gary

[Magluvin]

I see the difference in the common Tesla coils vs what Tesla had.
He used high tension dc as a source. And the spark gap was magnetically quenched. These others are ac component. Tesla found that the RE only showed itself when high tension dc was released. He further improved and gained control over it using a strong magnet to pull the electrons from the flow in the spark. In some of his pat. you see a v shape near the spark gaps.  By doing this, the spark was not allowing any reversal of the current in the spark, thus improving the amount and control of the RE component. The key was not to allow reversal of the dc released into the circuit. Diodes? I think you are on to it already. I myself am just figuring all this out.
If ya get a chance, read Secrets of Cold War Technology. It says that the common Tesla coils we see today are not from Tesla, they are from another scientist. It also tells that Tesla had come up with a RE reciever that didnt need a transmitter, this was after they demolished his tower and lab. And this was what he used to power the Peirce Arrow AC induction motor.  =]
Magluvin

[resonanceman]

@Gary

So to start , we need some type of kooler hybrid circuit.

I was thinking your flyback jt to feed the cap , i think i will fill the cap faster the the jeanna light toroid.

This may well raise the freq enough to get started on the hairpin circuit.

Before replacing the spark gap , we need to learn from it .

Btw one of my favorite part of the movie is the jump rope example...

Keep the good work !

Mark

Mark

I am not sure which flyback JT  you mean.

I have sevral made from flyback cores......one made  with the whole flyback transformer ....
My JTs  that I made from flyback cores or the transformer have been among my strongest.........and they seem to work  good at both 1.5 and 12 V   My 5 for $1 JTs  that work well at 1.5 V  seem to put out  the same or less at 12 V

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I am not an expert on radiant  energy or the hairpin circuit
I am not  going to try to say how we should  start .......or what we should  try.

I do have faith that if  we  try  we can make some great progress.
If  I remember right  the Joule Thief thread started with one question ........something like .......  can someone tell  me what is  going on with this circuit?

Look how much  we have learned sense then



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I am not sure when I will be able to take  the next step  in  making a replacment for a spark gap........ it is  like a passion  for me.
I believe it is one of the keys that we need to make  radiant  energy practical .

What I mean by this is.........somethings  are just not practical  with high enough  voltages to use  a spark gap.
If we learned how  to make  a small self charging radiant  energy battery pack .......and it had a spark gap in it that ran at 5000 V ........ would  you want to put it in your pocket?


gary