Hairpin Project

[jeanna]

t's still unclear whether or not the source is AC ..the image Jeanna posted trivializes the device's generator ( which I think is the key to the whole source-idea ); this was done to simplify the patent filing I'm sure.

I want to know ( as well ) what's going on in the capacitors at the base of the rods, and how it's possible to create a difference between the two when their essentially sharing a base via a connecting rod.

The equivalent circuit is an AC source with two capacitor in series, fancy linkage between them, and some strange effects.

this drawing came from a lecture in 1892 given to the EE's in London. He repeated these and other experiments for 3 other groups during 3 or 4 years.

He says it does not matter which kind of generator it is, however I believe this was a dc generator because this was more common and he was still making the effort to be recognized. (These 4 lectures did have that effect.)
There is another drawing which describes the kind of circuits you can make and in this drawing 3 are dc and 3 are ac.
The dc ones were made alternating in that later description. (same lecture).

It is very interesting to read the transcripts from these lectures.
Many things become clear, but you must feel very relaxed about what you are doing this for.
Tesla backs up and backs up just to inform his listeners about the experiments he has made that have led to his present topic.
There is absolutely no way to speed read your way through it.

Personally I had the impression that in presenting the hairpin to the world, he was introducing the concept of  parallel electric lines and what the considerations would be when using them with AC.
He specifically states that these things are not possible with steady (dc)  currents.
I believe this hairpin demonstration was the forerunner to the modern house wiring. (and this is where he introduced the idea.)
From his detailed descriptions of what is new, we can learn many of the things that were accepted as normal back then which have since dropped out of our electric notions.

for what it is worth,

jeanna

[resonanceman]

I will re-read your theory.

The hairpin circuit is clearly a transmitter though, the waveform may not be ideal, but sending bursts of DC constitutes an AM transmitter.

Through your posts, I can see that you wish to find the receiver rather than the sender, so to speak.  The one and the other seem the same...

Jadaro

The hairpin my  be a transmitter.......but right now it is the most practical way I have to learn the basics of radiant energy.

Fully understanding  radiant energy is the goal

You've referred to electrons in an excited state as becoming fluid; I think this is so, also, I would like to add that they may be thought of, with regard to how you have described them, as super-viscous and easier to manipulate.

I do not remember  that being part of what I said.
The idea fluid..... just doesn;t sit well with me.

I do think that the hyper electrons from the normal  electrons for the most part  behave  just  like  the normal electrons  we  are used to.

It's still unclear whether or not the source is AC ..the image Jeanna posted trivializes the device's generator ( which I think is the key to the whole source-idea ); this was done to simplify the patent filing I'm sure.

Most patents now  are writtren for those " skilled in the art "  in other words  experts in their fields ..... This is a way to hide certian details  that may otherwise make it to easy for your compatition to work  around the patant 
I agree that the generator  is  one of the main keys to this circuit .........and you would not  guess that from the drawing.

I want to know ( as well ) what's going on in the capacitors at the base of the rods, and how it's possible to create a difference between the two when their essentially sharing a base via a connecting rod.

Think  about a normal electrric circuit .......what happens when you disconnect the  power?
The electricity in the circuit disappears .......right?

In the  hairpin circuit  the same thing is happening
The  generator  pushes  the voltage  in the cap  up  high enough for the  electrons to jump  the spark gap.
The  electrons  suddenly jumping  the gap creates what Tesla called a disruptive discharge.   This  disruptive discharge is what shakes the hyper  electrons  out of their orbits.
There is a great deal  of power  in this disruptive discharge for a very short time........  in that short time the hyper electrons are swept through  the isolation  caps
At this point  the  great force of the disruptive discharge is no longer  pushing  the  hyper  electrons.......so they start to recombine  with atoms ......with a large wire  and not alot of force behind them.......they are pretty much gone by the time they reach the end of the rod on the other side ........so  as long  as you keep the descriptive discharge going....you have a  potential difference  across the bars 

There are some things which we can agree on, ..high voltage, electrons becoming more movable in this state, unusual effects.

I am not saying that  electrons  become more movable  at high vlotages.........I am saying that  there  are a second wave of electrons that is much smaller      ...... the electrons of electrons .

If someone could clarify why is this device is able to receive something more than it's transmitting?  ..otherwise it just appears to be creating a unified high voltage field which wants to ground out via attachments ( lights, etc )

I do not know that the hairpin  has ever  been  claimed to be OU.
It is  a circuit that I can use to learn about radiant energy .......

Trying to make sense of dozens of wires dangling all about makes things difficult to see what's hooked up where and in what way.  ( I've only self-registered this complaint though ). 

Yes I agree

that is one of the reasons I don't  post more of my circuits.
I have at least 2 dozen alligator clip leads .....I usually keep adding to my circuit  or trying to add feedback .......or something until I  run out of alligator clips........or totally confuse myself
If I  build it  and can't figure it out .........I am sure not  going to post it  and ask anyone else to  try.




gary

[resonanceman]

Jeanna

good point  about the wall power .

I had a strong urge to just throw something together and hit the switch...... don't worry the feeling passed........I am sane  again



I think we are on to something  too.

gary

[jadaro2600]

Jadaro
...
Fully understanding  radiant energy is the goal

I do not remember  that being part of what I said.
The idea fluid..... just doesn;t sit well with me.
...

It was more of a generalization.   ...I liken it to the notion that bullets and rocks can bounce off of water when at the correct angle.

[Pirate88179]

It was more of a generalization.   ...I liken it to the notion that bullets and rocks can bounce off of water when at the correct angle.

And velocity.

Bill