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Hairpin Project

Started by resonanceman, January 02, 2010, 09:20:03 PM

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jeanna

Gary,
I went into my other computer and found the picture Tesla prepared for his patent on delivery of electric lighting in a home.
This is one of the hairpin circuits on its side.
This is my biggest reason for thinking the hairpin was the experiment behind what became dressed up as a patent
What do you think?

jeanna

resonanceman

Quote from: jeanna on January 09, 2010, 10:54:59 PM
Gary,
I went into my other computer and found the picture Tesla prepared for his patent on delivery of electric lighting in a home.
This is one of the hairpin circuits on its side.
This is my biggest reason for thinking the hairpin was the experiment behind what became dressed up as a patent
What do you think?

jeanna

Jeanna

It looks like it would function like a hairpin.

The question is.........what was Tesla planning?

A  spark gap and cap is not required  to power  a simple load.


gary

sparks

@Jeanna

     If you study Tesla he wants the whole transmission circuit to be in resonance and pickup the load at nodes and antinodes in the transmission system.  This way the tank remains in oscillation mode and the resistance is cut out of an RLC circuit.  The system just sits there and oscillates with input needed just for losses in the resonant circuit not work done by the circuit.  By inputting harmonics of the natural resonance of the transmission line the distance between nodes and antinodes can be adjusted.  At the present frequency used by the power companies your load would have to be capacitively coupled thousands of miles apart.  For all we know the power companies are using Teslas scheme and telling us they are producing all these megawatts when all they do is produce 10percent of what they are charging us for. 
They have been using pulsed dc for long transmission lines between portions of the grid but that is only to overcome the impedance losses because of the wire they used.  Cheaper to put up the conversion plants on either end than to replace the antiquated wires with coax designed for low frequency transmission.  DC goes just as far as ac with a lot less selfinductance losses due to the transmission of ac.  Edison was right.  It is just that high voltage dc converters were not available at the time so to overcome the line drop they would use a seperate run from the substations that were dc motor generator sets and very expensive.  Tesla designed an ac to dc converter but it never went into production because Westinghouse owned Tesla at the time.  This diode is capable of rectifying killowatts of power without thermal losses to heat sinks and all the rest of the losses nonlinear semiconductors are beseeched with.  Just iron and copper. 
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jadaro2600

Quote from: sparks on January 09, 2010, 11:22:31 PM
... Tesla designed an ac to dc converter but it never went into production because Westinghouse owned Tesla at the time.  This diode is capable of rectifying killowatts of power without thermal losses to heat sinks and all the rest of the losses nonlinear semiconductors are beseeched with.  Just iron and copper.

By "this diode" which diode do you specifically mean?

jeanna

Quote from: resonanceman on January 09, 2010, 11:17:07 PM
It looks like it would function like a hairpin.

The question is.........what was Tesla planning?

A  spark gap and cap is not required  to power  a simple load.
True,
I think this is the proposal that ended up as the wiring in our homes.


I have been getting lots of lighting tonight.
I even burned my fingers on the secondary.
It is hard to balance on my lap and table and take a pic, so I will clear things a bit tomorrow, and hopefully make a little video of one JT lighting 2 LoA bulbs. I did it today but my arm kept getting in the way, so I will go for a better one tomorrow.

@Sparks,
I think you are making too much of what Tesla was doing.
It is a lot simpler than what you are proposing.

In fact Tesla went into quite a bit of detail about how resonance was not at all what he wanted, and that many people thought it was the best thing to aim for and he said they would find it was not.

I was happy to find the cone gave me a  self tuning resonant circuit, but in fact, I have not been able to do as much with it as with the hum drum skinny spikes.

The thing I see  is that the voltage numbers we expect to use are way off.
It takes 450v minimum to light a cfl. This is 2-4 times as much just by the numbers, so we must get used to it.
I cannot light a neon with less than 190 v. I usually clarify and use the word spiky to show the difference.
I was surprised when I got stung by the secondary wire tonight, but at the time I was realizing that the circuit I was using was able to light the LoA bulb either way + to + , or + to -
This is another surprise and may be about how high the voltage is (~600-800v)

It is looking pretty good from here.
If I could only get around this component karma, it would be easy.
Now, I am thinking the croc leads are my biggest trouble... tonight anyway.

Ah well,

jeanna