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Energy gain by induction change.

Started by broli, January 04, 2010, 04:53:52 PM

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broli

Yes if you use the concept of super conductors, if you don't then the energy is heat.

onthecuttingedge2005

one of the things that interest me is Ultrasonic magnetic fields, take one large flat Ultrasonic transducer and glue a very strong NEO on its driver face, build a driver circuit that can vary the Hz, test field inductions with generator coils in close proximity to test input to output watts.

danmarius7

Quote from: broli on January 09, 2010, 09:48:46 AM
Yes if you use the concept of super conductors, if you don't then the energy is heat.
Now, that's more like it.

Omega_0

Quote from: broli on January 04, 2010, 04:53:52 PM
It's almost self explanatory but here's a summary. Basically it's a system where an inductor changes inductance during a certain time period. But the energy gain that comes with this is unexplained as the mechanical energy loss is in comparison very small. This system is based on two facts, core saturation and seemingly small mechanical forces. When you combine these two energy might get created in big quantities. In the presentation every rotation gives about 800 Joules. This is considering ideal conditions like giving the current enough time to rise during the small period where the magnet is at TDC.

Yes, it is puzzling indeed. But the situation is much complicated than shown in your diagrams.

First of all the energy equation 0.5LI^2 is valid only for an inductor with constant L. For a variable L, also called VariInd (just like a VariCap), the energy is given by LdI/dt + IdL/dt. So the time factor comes into play when you vary the inductance while maintaining a current. The variation can be done by, say, inserting an iron rod into the coil.

This method has been in use for long and is called Parametric Amplifier, used in low noise microwave amplifiers, satellites and antennas. It seems that it is not OU, simply because the tech exists since a 100 years and we all are still paying electricity bills. Some people have attempted building OU devices using such stuff (and it is shockingly similar to what you call steorn effect). Check out these links:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraconv.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraintr.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraform.htm
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

wings

Quote from: Omega_0 on January 09, 2010, 12:33:06 PM
Yes, it is puzzling indeed. But the situation is much complicated than shown in your diagrams.

First of all the energy equation 0.5LI^2 is valid only for an inductor with constant L. For a variable L, also called VariInd (just like a VariCap), the energy is given by LdI/dt + IdL/dt. So the time factor comes into play when you vary the inductance while maintaining a current. The variation can be done by, say, inserting an iron rod into the coil.

This method has been in use for long and is called Parametric Amplifier, used in low noise microwave amplifiers, satellites and antennas. It seems that it is not OU, simply because the tech exists since a 100 years and we all are still paying electricity bills. Some people have attempted building OU devices using such stuff (and it is shockingly similar to what you call steorn effect). Check out these links:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraconv.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraintr.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraform.htm


and this
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/largcoil.htm