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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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oscar

Hi Groundloop,
thanks for doing the test I suggested. Unfortunately it did not give positive results.
Naturally my idea has only got a chance to work, if your generator coil consists more or less of two separate halves along the length of the ferrite rod, so that each one of these halves is covering half the ferrite rod. The right half coil is not allowed to overlap into the left half of the rod and vice versa. Both halves have to meet in the middle of the rod and this is where the centre tap must be. In the geometric middle, where the fields of the two magnets meet.
Maybe it would be best if you can shift/slide the coil(s) a little to tune.
However, I am not sure if it would work even if the above criteria is met. It is just an idea. I write this just to clarify my idea.

But please confirm: Your centre tap is surely in the middle of the length of the coil, but not in the geometric middle of the rod (which would be necessary, according to my reasoning)?
The transmission was a '53 (Johnny Cash)

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: Groundloop on January 06, 2010, 01:09:24 PM
Bruce,

Everything is possible. I have tried to explain the problem with
too strong magnets on the toroids. There is a limit to the toroid
cores ability to shield the magnetic field. If the field is too strong
and if we already are powering the toroid cores to the saturation
point, then all power increase after that point is wasted as heat.
A cross bar at the magnets will make the field so strong that there
is not enough magnetic shielding left in the cores to overcome this.

Alex.

Yep, I understand that completely.  But... what I am talking about is having some sort of switching device, that only allows the steel to "connect" when the toroid is in the "off" mode.  That is when we want the most flux to pass to the generator coil.  And then, when the toroid is "on" and blocking the flux,the "switch" connecting the steel would be "off", thus the only flux it would be blocking is that of the normal magnets that you now have on there.  I do not know what sort of switch could be used, but someone might have an idea.  I have attached a picture.  I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but if a way could be figured out, it would give a real boost on the genrator coils, I believe!

Cheers,

Brce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Groundloop

Oscar,

The center tap is in the middle of the generator coil not in the middle of the
center Ferrite tube. I can not move the toroids. They are epoxied to the
center Ferrite tube.

Alex.

Groundloop

Bruce,

I understand what you are saying. And it may work. The only magnetic switch
that I'm aware of is another toroid at the crossbar. This toroid must be saturated
enough so that we block the crossbar magnetic field when we fire the two other
toroid. Will this increased power usage "eat up" the gain we get? That is the question.
One way of doing it is maybe using two rotors, one at each end of the system, but
then we do have an solid state anymore. Your idea is good but difficult to implement.

Alex.

Groundloop

Bruce,

Take a look at the attached drawing. In this setup we use two toroid cores at each end.
Then we use a magnetic crossbar at each ends of the magnets. Now, when the toroids
are off then the magnetic field will take the shortest route in a closed magnetic field
at both ends.

Now we switch on the two top toroids. The magnetic field will now go through the center
core instead because that will be the lowest resistance for the field. We switch off again and
now we switch on the other two toroids. Now the magnetic field will travel through the core
in the opposite direction. We switch off again, and then repeat the sequence. This will create
an alternating magnetic field in the core and we will have a lot more power out in the generator
coil.

Is there anybody that have the FEMM simulator that can try this setup?
(Or other magnetic simulator that can simulate this setup.)

Alex.