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Solid State Orbo System

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Bruce_TPU

#325
February 24, 2010, 09:43:16 PM
Hello ALL,

Can anyone say...WEIRD..lol.  I just added a blue LED, this is the third in series, brightly lit, and NEW output voltage....   8 volts  !!! 

New output voltage frequency....  330 Hz. 

Now, a few things you should remember:
A.  I am working with "Brook's Coils", all wound professionally (three so far)
B.  Could the LED's somehow be increasing the frequency within these Brooks pick up coils and as the frequency increases, so does the output voltage?

Time to add some more LED's...  I still have three more coils I plan on adding, but first tonight, time for more LED's.

Resistance in Ohms of output coils = 753 Ohms
Output voltage = 8 volts

Cool stuff,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Magluvin

#326
February 24, 2010, 09:55:01 PM
Hey Bruce

I have some pretty good experience with LEDs.
Are the leds the same? Color,  model?
If you have them in series, your output is no longer being clamped by the single led's running voltage, to say it the easy way. Now you have 2 in series, that clamp voltage is 2 times as much, 2 times the drop or clamp. The led's wont take current till the voltage rises to the running voltage, and if it draws from the output if it goes below the running voltage the draw stops and voltage rises again from there when currents are weak with an unstable voltage.  Also if it is bouncing from run to not run, it could be oscillating enough to get the leds go into overdrive, which happens with short pulses, thus more brightness. If you check on a scope you might just see it osc. If not and the output is stable with a cap, they could be just hovering in the on off area and some other factor is giving extra brightness. Its hard to say without seeing what you have going for sure.The JT's are definitely putting the leds into overdrive, so thats why the are soo bright with little current due to the short pulses and high freq. Some laser diodes use pulse circuits also to get them to overdrive.

Hope that makes sense.  =]

Mags

Magluvin

#327
February 24, 2010, 10:31:46 PM
8 volts across a blue led? It should be about 4 to 5v clamp. So you must be putting out some juice.  It just may burn the led without a limit res. 
Good to see it coming together. I have messed with orbon for quite a while and it just doesnt seem to stop  surprising me with these lil tweeks and increases.

oh, are you using a limit res on the led?  That could be why the 8v is not burning it.

Mags

Bruce_TPU

#328
February 24, 2010, 11:00:15 PM
Hi Mags,

Two LED's are the same, and one is differant.  Tomorrow, I will have all three the same.

The setup is VERY sensitive.  ALL magnet orientation must be correct to get the Maximum output.  I have attached a simple drawing to help everyone understand, and to keep lab notes.

I tore it apart carefully, so that I can repeat it tomorrow evening.  The magnet facings AND placement are critical!  If I change on facing, cuts output in half!

I can now, turn the rotor by hand, slow motion, and when the reed switch switches the circuit, my three LED's light.  It's pretty cool.

I might make a vid tomorrow night.  I'd rather experiment some more, though.  I still want to optimize and think some things through.

Realizing the the magnet in the center of my toroid MUST be SOUTH facing the bar magnet (mag in toroid is horizontal, bar mag is vertical) to keep from cutting the output in half, has given me some whole new ideas to boost power with more magnets.  I am realizing, if you just "add" magnets and nothing happens, it may be because their position relative to everything is not correct.

Cheers,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

aaron5120

#329
February 24, 2010, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 24, 2010, 09:43:16 PM
Hello ALL,

Can anyone say...WEIRD..lol.  I just added a blue LED, this is the third in series, brightly lit, and NEW output voltage....   8 volts  !!! 

New output voltage frequency....  330 Hz. 

Now, a few things you should remember:
A.  I am working with "Brook's Coils", all wound professionally (three so far)
B.  Could the LED's somehow be increasing the frequency within these Brooks pick up coils and as the frequency increases, so does the output voltage?

Time to add some more LED's...  I still have three more coils I plan on adding, but first tonight, time for more LED's.

Resistance in Ohms of output coils = 753 Ohms
Output voltage = 8 volts

Cool stuff,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com
Bruce,
Could you please tell us what is the input voltage and current to your Circuit? At what duty cycle? Is it pulsed DC?
Can you tell us also the consumption current of your load( the leds)?
Thanks for your attention. Keep going on, Good experiment, Bruce.
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