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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: wings on March 02, 2010, 09:06:05 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D

COP=8.1

http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm#COP


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Wings,  I may be wrong here, But that -14v is measured through 1000ohm resistors I believe
Truly I cannot see where the claim holds water. Now if that 14v was across a 5ohm resistor and was continuous, well then we are seeing some cop.  Even if it were 14v/500ohm  ( 2 1000ohm res in parallel) the output would be .392w output.
Other than that, is he saying that the input is .049w  ?

Im not seeing how he is coming up with cop 8      April 1st is a long time away.  =]

Mags

magneto_DC




Oh thanks, I see now.
You dont refer to any parmetric resonance in general, but especially how to replace a (lets say now) 200 Hz DC pulsing into a 100 Hz resonant tank circuit.

Every halfwave of current (+ or -) into the toroid do saturation! It results in 200 cycles per second. The parallel tank curcuit resonant frequency is f(r) = 100 Hz.

(I would prefer parallel tank curcuit, because the (inside) current between capacitor and toroid at resonance grows hugh, whereas the current INTO the circuit declines).

None the less, the output frequency is f(out) = 200Hz.

Best regards
magneto_DC

mondrasek

Quote from: Magluvin on March 02, 2010, 01:35:48 PM
Wings,  I may be wrong here, But that -14v is measured through 1000ohm resistors I believe
Truly I cannot see where the claim holds water. Now if that 14v was across a 5ohm resistor and was continuous, well then we are seeing some cop.  Even if it were 14v/500ohm  ( 2 1000ohm res in parallel) the output would be .392w output.
Other than that, is he saying that the input is .049w  ?

Im not seeing how he is coming up with cop 8      April 1st is a long time away.  =]

Mags, he is only looking at the OUTPUT coil:

When the input (8V) to the toroid is ON, the OUTPUT coil creates a voltage of 5.0469V across a 10K resistor.

When the input to the toroid is switched OFF, the OUTPUT coil creates a voltage of -14.377V across another 10K resistor (the resistors are "separated" in different circuits by two fast switching diodes).

JLN says the COP is the quotient of the squares of these two voltages, so (-14.377)^2/5.0469^2 = ~8.1.

I'm not sure about his math or what this comparison really means, but I believe this is what he is attempting to show with this setup.

M.

Omega_0

Quote from: mondrasek on March 02, 2010, 01:59:02 PM

JLN says the COP is the quotient of the squares of these two voltages, so (-14.377)^2/5.0469^2 = ~8.1.

I'm not sure about his math or what this comparison really means, but I believe this is what he is attempting to show with this setup.

M.

You are right, he has actually changed the definition of COP. Not only him, many people change the definitions of standard terms, trying to explain stuff, and ending up confusing everyone.

This fresh update by JLN uses some other way to get COP (frankly, I have no idea how he got that)
http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm#OVERUNITY

Here, one replicator of SSGen, uses another formula and calls it efficiency instead.
http://freeorbo.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/2sgen-measured-at-714-efficient/

Steorn have re-defined OU (excludes the losses totally), but they got COP correct.

Clearly, most people don't know what COP is. It must be restricted to heat and heat only, nothing else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

teslaalset

Naudin has withdrawn his part 7 on COP of 8.1