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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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exnihiloest

Quote from: lumen on March 08, 2010, 05:30:10 PM
...There is no current generated in the parallel plane because both poles of the magnet are in the same plane as the pickup coil and the 90 degree rule cannot apply to even generate power.

Only a change of flux through a coil can induce voltage.
The magnet is positioned with one pole facing the plane of the pickup coil and its flux passing through the ferrite core and through the pickup coil.
We know that a permanent magnet does not provide a varying flux then it does not induce voltage in the pickup coil. If it is the saturation of the toroidal coil that modulates the flux from the permanent magnet then it should work when the toroid plane is parallel to the pickup coil plane. But it doesn't.
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I'm beginning to think you are just...
...Makes me think they have been scamming everyone for many years now.

Well I see you are going outside science and experiments and you give no logical arguments.
It is very funny to see people pretending that others do not know the laws of physics when all they try to do themselves is to dismiss the principle of energy conservation using the... laws of physics!  ;D



gravityblock

Here's something interesting.  In Episode 7, Naudin's pulse generator was set to 990 Hz.  I have a paper from the late 1800's on magnetic viscosity by E. Rutherford, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=375 

This paper says soft iron and steel exhibit the effect of magnetic viscosity quite strongly for a frequency at 1,000 or above.  Very informative article.  It looks like Naudin is working at the right frequencies according to this paper.

Naudin has released episode 9, http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm#v6

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

magneto_DC

Hello,


If I only knew where to begin with my questions.....................


In Episode 9 of JLN's 2SGen, what is (B-) flux running without magnetisation of toroid, with magnetisation of toroid?

Without magnetisation all flux enters toroid and go 50% cw and 50% ccw inside toroide? How far? Do they reunion at the farest point? Leave toroid, and go back 50%cw and 50% ccw OUTside toroid (in free air) to the notattaching pole of magnet(-stack)?

Or can there be a forward AND backward flux inside toroid?

When magnetising toroid, is the saturation that high, for no more going the magnets flux lines INSIDE the toroid? Does magnets behave like NO toroid was there?

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IF we generate voltage (current, power) in pickup coil only with curl-free A (changing A), in what direction is the greatest change (x,y,z,t)?
Where does the biggest  dA/d(x,y,z,t,...) occur?
How to get highest voltage?
How to get current without bmf?


If my english was better, I could ask for pages...

Regards
magneto_DC

Airstriker

Quote from: magneto_DC on March 09, 2010, 06:25:12 AM
When magnetising toroid, is the saturation that high, for no more going the magnets flux lines INSIDE the toroid? Does magnets behave like NO toroid was there?
That's what I and exnihiloest are saying. But nobody seems to agree.

The configuration provided in Episode 9 is in my opinion good and bad at the same time. What is good is that you utilize also the energy stored in the toroid core. What is bad is the fact, that if you would use also the magnetization phase as the output in pickup coil, you would end up with BEMF. That we don't want.

Don't you guys hear that buzzing sound in all Naudin's videos ? I propose an experiment. If it's not the magnet that is "jumping", place some soft rubber or something between the magnet and the core. Do you still hear the sound? Or simply, do you hear that sound in Episode 3 ? Still not convinced? Than look at Episode 2 - you can hear the sound since he touches the magnet with the toroid - not earlier. Now think, what effect does it cause on the output coil? Not the sound of course lol.
Just to note: I'm not saying the idea with 2SGen is wrong. In my opinion it is in fact capable to be OU. I'm only saying that it works differently that you want it to work. And also in my opinion no special super druper physics do apply here.