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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#465
March 08, 2010, 10:09:30 PM
Hello ALL,

Well, I did decide to do a few more experiments, using another old barely alive battery.  I tried to use an aluminum insert into the toroid hole, as a heat sink.  My thinking was that it would either heat things up in there, or cool them off a bit more...  ;)

I would caution everyone not to get too excited, as I will not really be convinced my self, until I use the laser thermometer.  If it says yes, then I can think of some brand new applications.

As the rotor speed slows, and the switching speed slows, the temperature gradually rises.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gravityblock

#466
March 08, 2010, 10:47:16 PM
I moved this post to the other thread, since it wasn't directly related to a solid state device.  It's about an experiment done by E. Rutherford in the late 1800's on magnetic viscosity.  Its probably best for any discussion of this article to be in the other thread.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

#467
March 09, 2010, 02:43:53 AM
Quote from: exnihiloest on March 08, 2010, 01:40:33 PM
You said:
"A few others here have also reported a cooling effect from their replications."

If it is not related to Orbo, I suggest you speak elsewhere about the Amdam's motor. It is not the goal of this thread. Thanks.

The link I posted to the Adams theory also has extensive information on solid state devices based around this thread.  You obviously didn't look at the link, if you did then you would know this.  There are similarities and both have the same basic principals, so there is some useful information in the reference link I provide that is related to the ssOrbo (especially if Bruce has noticed a cooling effect in his SS device because this has been reported in the Adams replications also). 

If my memory serves me correctly, I believe Steorn has said the coils in the Orbo doesn't necessarily have to be a toroid in order to have the effect.  The toroid is used to eliminate or reduce the BEMF/CEMF to near 0, but the shape of the toroid itself doesn't produce the effect.  If this is the case, then it would make it even more like the concept based around Adams.  There is no reason in having a discussion about how relevant my post is to this thread, for it will only lead to another distraction.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

exnihiloest

#468
March 09, 2010, 03:27:04 AM
Quote from: void109 on March 08, 2010, 01:53:23 PM
The cooling has been shown present in Orbo replications.  And the effect looks to be present in the SS Orbo replication by Bruce_TPU.  Understanding what we're observing is important, no?
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Hi void109

I knew the magneto caloric effect. What I asked first was "where can we find measurements about a cooling effect in Orbo system?".
"Observing" without measurements in not convincing, question of faith.
The cooling effect when the field is removed is a priori canceled by the heating effect when the field is built. I don't observe cooling in my own experiments. It is the reason of my question.


gravityblock

#469
March 09, 2010, 03:31:04 AM
Quote from: exnihiloest on March 09, 2010, 03:27:04 AM
Hi void109

I knew the magneto caloric effect. What I asked first was "where can we find measurements about a cooling effect in Orbo system?".
"Observing" without measurements in not convincing, question of faith.
The cooling effect when the field is removed is a priori canceled by the heating effect when the field is built. I don't observe cooling in my own experiments. It is the reason of my question.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8528.0

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.
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