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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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gravityblock

I found this patent application in regards to the haSSgen concept I posted earlier (two toroids intersecting in the same plane, similar to a "figure-8 construction" mentioned in the application), http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090096219

ENERGY GENERATION APPARATUS AND METHODS BASED UPON MAGNETIC FLUX SWITCHING:

A "Figure-8" construction comprises two continuous loops of magnetizable material sharing a magnetizable member common to both loops.  Each loop further includes two flux switches operated in a 2.times.2 sequence to sequentially reverse the flux through the magnetizable member. A relatively small amount of electrical power is used to control the magnetic flux of a permanent magnet by switching the flux between alternate paths. The resulting power from the switched magnetic flux yields substantially more power than the power required for the input switching.

[0016] The first and second loops may be toroidal in shape, and the loops may be spaced apart from one another, with A opposing C, 1 opposing 3, B opposing D and 2 opposing 4. The magnetizable member in this case is preferably a separate piece of material. Alternatively, the first and second loops may form a "Figure-8" shape, with the two loops intersecting to form the magnetizable member.

[0050]  The current driving the reluctance switches in the prescribed 2.times.2 sequence should have a sharp rise in the leading edge (Tr) of each pulse with a pulse width (Pw) and Amperage value that are sustained until released at the end of the pulse width (Tf). The table below shows the effects of input current pulse rise times (Tr) on the output. These exists a narrow band of Tr, before which there is small power output, at which there are excellent power output and CoPs (coefficients of performance) in the range of 200 to 400 or greater, and after which there is no major increase in power output. The CoP of this device without the coupling circuit is defined as "Output power/Drive Power" for the switches

GB
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Quote from: gravityblock on March 17, 2010, 03:41:35 AM
I found this patent application in regards to the haSSgen concept I posted earlier (two toroids intersecting in the same plane, similar to a "figure-8 construction" mentioned in the application), http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090096219

ENERGY GENERATION APPARATUS AND METHODS BASED UPON MAGNETIC FLUX SWITCHING:

A "Figure-8" construction comprises two continuous loops of magnetizable material sharing a magnetizable member common to both loops.  Each loop further includes two flux switches operated in a 2.times.2 sequence to sequentially reverse the flux through the magnetizable member. A relatively small amount of electrical power is used to control the magnetic flux of a permanent magnet by switching the flux between alternate paths. The resulting power from the switched magnetic flux yields substantially more power than the power required for the input switching.

[0016] The first and second loops may be toroidal in shape, and the loops may be spaced apart from one another, with A opposing C, 1 opposing 3, B opposing D and 2 opposing 4. The magnetizable member in this case is preferably a separate piece of material. Alternatively, the first and second loops may form a "Figure-8" shape, with the two loops intersecting to form the magnetizable member.

[0050]  The current driving the reluctance switches in the prescribed 2.times.2 sequence should have a sharp rise in the leading edge (Tr) of each pulse with a pulse width (Pw) and Amperage value that are sustained until released at the end of the pulse width (Tf). The table below shows the effects of input current pulse rise times (Tr) on the output. These exists a narrow band of Tr, before which there is small power output, at which there are excellent power output and CoPs (coefficients of performance) in the range of 200 to 400 or greater, and after which there is no major increase in power output. The CoP of this device without the coupling circuit is defined as "Output power/Drive Power" for the switches

GB


http://www.google.com/patents?id=FS6gAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false

FatChance!!!

If this patent was really working, why is there no devices available ??? ??? ???
I'll bet anything this is just a typical bogus patent, as all others concerning
energy generation from static flux switching. It simply can't work!

The purpose of the B/H curve is to describe the loss of a magnetic cycle.
And these materials might have pretty low losses but they are in no way overunity.
No matter how you pulse them there is always losses in each cycle.
And any added magnets to the core will just shift the B/H curve working point.
This translates to even higher losses due to larger flux swing and increased hysteresis loss.

I know I will get hell for this post but please think before rejecting these facts. I'm not lying!

void109

Quote from: FatChance!!! on March 17, 2010, 07:54:45 AM
If this patent was really working, why is there no devices available ??? ??? ???
I'll bet anything this is just a typical bogus patent, as all others concerning
energy generation from static flux switching. It simply can't work!

The purpose of the B/H curve is to describe the loss of a magnetic cycle.
And these materials might have pretty low losses but they are in no way overunity.
No matter how you pulse them there is always losses in each cycle.
And any added magnets to the core will just shift the B/H curve working point.
This translates to even higher losses due to larger flux swing and increased hysteresis loss.

I know I will get hell for this post but please think before rejecting these facts. I'm not lying!

Please see this thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8892.60

And please make sure you read ALL of the material at http://jlnlab.com regarding his 2SGen project.

Then tell me what you think.  I went and read all of your previous posts (its early and I was curious), not a single positive or encouraging post.  Kind of reminds me of that little bird-like critter that sat at Jabba the Hut's throne, feeding off his fat, and cackling at the misfortune of those about to perish. :)

FatChance!!!

I've seen and read these topics and sites but there is no
evidence on overunity except the authors own words.
And this doesn't count. There has to be completely
independent replications from people who know how to
perform accurate tests and measurements.
It simply has be the day job of the test staff.
And their findings must be verified by open independent replication.

I'm sorry to say this but JLN labs doesn't count in this matter.
None of the JLN replications have been released for independent verification.
And why hasn't JLN let anyone test his devices...simply because they don't work.

Just think Occam's Razor !!!