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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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aaron5120

Quote from: Groundloop on January 09, 2010, 12:11:10 PM
@exnihiloest,

Thank you for commenting and sharing information.

Can you share the test you did regarding that magnetic saturation of a material
depends on the direction of the magnetic field? And maybe explain more about
your test?

If you look at the various motors then you can see all the different ways the
toroid core is positioned, horizontal standing, horizontal flat etc. And the
motors do run.

I will try to test this with a toroid core, a magnet and
a generator coil that can be positioned in any direction on the toroid.

Alex.
Alex,
May I draw you attention to the clip put forthed by Ossie AKA Callanan in the mechanical Orbo thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uv33bsORbw
The big toroidal coil seems to repel the magnet located radially outside the soft iron core.
No ferrite was used, just soft iron sheet made a round core and wires wound around it.
The idea of putting many magnets around the toroidal core may work, due to this interesting effect discovered by Ossie.
Aaron5120

Groundloop

@synchro1,

Thank you for sharing. I have tried using some soft Iron as a crossbar
between the magnets at each end of the toroids. I also tried to stack
many magnets at each end and then orientate the magnets so the the
magnets was 90 degrees at the toroid core, thus bringing the magnets
ends closer together. Then I used soft Iron between the magnets.
I could not see any increased output because of this.

I have seen that the magnet strength does not have to be big at all.
The best result is when the magnet strength is just big enough to allow
the toroid cores to do the job with the power input at hand. So it seems
that there is a balance between magnet strength, power input to
the toroids and toroids mass and number of turns.

Alex.

Groundloop

@aaron5120,

Thanks for commenting.

I did look at that video. Ossie is doing great research.

I have noticed the same effect in my solid state setup. I can get
power output from my generator coil when the magnets is 90 degrees
on the toroids.

The Ossie test is good news for testing a solid state system with
generator coils at 90 degrees on a tube toroid core. Another great
feature of the Ossie test is that we can use cheap Iron as a core
and that the core can be made much larger. This will allow us to
have magnets inside the core lined up with the generator coils.
Another thing is that it is easy to wind a core with a large diameter
hole in the center. Ossie is doing a great job.

Alex.

futuristic

Quote from: aaron5120 on January 09, 2010, 11:00:14 PM
The big toroidal coil seems to repel the magnet located radially outside the soft iron core.

Just to make the things clear so nobody gets confused...
The coil is not repelling anything, its just that when coil is saturated, the magnetic fields of both magnets are no longer trapped into iron core and so they repel (if magnets are facing with the same poles).

I am certain that you already know that it's just that we should carefully pick our words when trying to explain what is going on in any new configuration.

gotoluc

Hi Groundloop and all,

I was wondering Alex if we could use the Flynn Parallel Path idea to do the same thing?

The first image below is the Flynn Parallel Path basic idea.

The second image I modified and added coils on each ends.

I'm quite sure you're familiar with the Flynn Parallel Path. It's claimed to make over 3 time the magnetic field strenght of an electromagnet. It should work well with the H-Bridge switch to make the reversing fields for the flux gate coils and it could easily be brought to Resonance with the right Capacitor in Series.

Link to basic info: http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Flynn_Parallel_Path_principle_device

Let me know what you think.

Luc