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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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jaculat

Bruce

potentiometers should be linear type for best adjustment.

If you want to separate generator form your powering circuit use opto-isolator. Your power consumption will be without power used by generator...

gyulasun

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 24, 2010, 07:59:43 PM
Hi Gyula,

Wow, that is a simple circuit.  I ended up ordering that A last night... LOL

I may build yours as well and compare the two.  I think if I have any hope of seeing OU in my SSG3, I will certainly need a low power consumption pulser.  Thank you for posting that.

Also, my L Meter arrived today!  Yea!  I will soon have some inductance readings for you.  I will need your help figuring out caps for resonance.  Thank you as always for your assistance.

Kind regards,

Bruce


EDIT:
Center Bias Coil Inductance = .959 mh
Capacitance is aprox 48.8 uF

All 5 brooks output coils together at the output in parallel = .60 H  (problem with top coil leads, long story)
Capacitance is aprox 41.2 uF

Hi Bruce,

I cannot recall your correct output frequency (was it 70Hz?) or frequencies, they are needed for the capacitance calculation, once you know the coils inductance values from the L meter. Would you write it again, I do not want to wade through so many mails, sorry for that.

Also, it would be good if you measure the coils DC resistance (if they are in series, or in parallel, then the resultant) it would be good for estimating the generator output resistance (because the coils will serve as generator output). This will help to find the optimum load resistance at which the maximum output can be received.

My only "problem" with your Brooks coil is that they have a rather high DC resistance, if I recall, about 254 Ohms for one such coil. It is ok that the geometry this coil has insures the biggest inductance possible for that given wire length but for generator coils such a high DC resistance is normally 'hunch on the back' because if load it with say only 10mA current,  the voltage drop 'inside' the coil will be 2.54V and this heats the coil only, it never comes out, except in heat. And a 10mA demand in a load current is not an extra wish for sure.
You would wish to use coils for generating electricity with much lower copper resistance, this means using thinner wires. I know this is bad news for you but once I have had to tell you, sorry.

rgds,  Gyula

PS  the best would be you measure the L value across the output wires you assign as generator outputs and also measure the DC resistance across those wires. 
also, whatever other coil you wish to make resonant at a certain frequency, you measure its L value and the resistance but this latter is needed for matching purposes if any.

If the output frequency is 70 Hz, and your 6 coils have .6H inductance then the needed capacitor for resonance is 8.62 uF  (4 pieces of 2 uF, a 470 nF and a 150 nF, all in parallel to make up for the 8.62 uF)

synchro1

Groundloop posted some excerpts from the Figure 8 patent of Ennis and Eberly a few pages back, followed by a second toroid of connected Horseshoes with bridgecoils, then the attachment of Heinrich Kunel's toroid. Imagine once again a nanoperm toroid with two opposed fine wire flux blocker wraps, one on each side of the toroid, and a small magnet stack in the middle or one magnet with reversed polarity on each end of the outside. Alternate pulsing of these reluctance switches would reverse the flux beneath an output coil wrapped around the toroid like the more complex Figure eight power apparatus shows, without the special shaped core. Hienrich Kunel's patent shows how he does it with a magnet intersecting the body of the toroid, another special core adaptation. How simple would it be to do with these two tiny wraps! Look at Grounloop's schematic for his Solid State Magnetic Generator Double at the bottem of the first page of this thread, and see if this very basic approach dosen't accomplish the very same thing. 

NerzhDishual

Hi OU crowd,

Sorry, I have not read this whole thread  :P

Anyway, I'm trying to replicate the JL Naudin's 2SGEN  with 'various' and  'irritating'  results...

It is on: http://freenrg.info/Some_Experiments/JLN_2SGEN/

In short, I have not been able to get the JLN results: 35.3 V volts and -9.5 volts across the 10 K ohms Rloads respectively for the demagnetization phase and the magnetization phase. I got milli volts instead of volts.

I have also recently noticed that I could remove the magnets from the toroidal coil if I wired a secondary with about 10 turns and I shorted it!

Very Best
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gravityblock

Quote from: synchro1 on March 25, 2010, 01:31:51 PM
Groundloop posted some excerpts from the Figure 8 patent of Ennis and Eberly a few pages back, followed by a second toroid of connected Horseshoes with bridgecoils, then the attachment of Heinrich Kunel's toroid. Imagine once again a nanoperm toroid with two opposed fine wire flux blocker wraps, one on each side of the toroid, and a small magnet stack in the middle or one magnet with reversed polarity on each end of the outside. Alternate pulsing of these reluctance switches would reverse the flux beneath an output coil wrapped around the toroid like the more complex Figure eight power apparatus shows, without the special shaped core. Hienrich Kunel's patent shows how he does it with a magnet intersecting the body of the toroid, another special core adaptation. How simple would it be to do with these two tiny wraps! Look at Grounloop's schematic for his Solid State Magnetic Generator Double at the bottem of the first page of this thread, and see if this very basic approach dosen't accomplish the very same thing.

Keep on trying Synchro in regards to the "Figure 8".  Don't give up. 

The Perminvar alloys, Conpernik, Isoperm, and powdered irons have a near 0 hysteresis loss, according to the 12th page of this article and can now be viewed on Scribd without the need to download it to your computer, http://www.scribd.com/doc/28789552/SURVEY-CHARACTERISTICS-AND-EVALUATION-OF-HIGH-PERFORMANCE-MAGNETIC-CORE-MATERIALS
 
GB
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