Lifters: Anti-gravity or simply ION WIND?

[raburgeson]

Lifter reaction may be far from simple. I have an experiment for you, if you'd like! Put a ball magnet in a plastic ring that will keep it under the lifter and see if the lifter produces a vortex. If the magnet spins it does.

[TinselKoala]

Would you expect the lifter itself to spin in the opposite direction?

[raburgeson]

I don't have a flyback to work with right now, damn it. I'm trying to picture this in my mind. Maybe it does not work in a vacuum because it has no material to react with. Picture a 4 sided lifter. Where does the charge discharge to? Is it a simple ion path to the skirt? If so does the discharge create a magnetic field parallel to the wire. many vortexes spinning in the same direction? Does the wire produce a magnetic field around the wire and the skirt producing a strangely charged toroid of sorts producing a vortex. The stable lift that shows no sign of flipping over suggests that a vortex is present. You have to consider to get an idea what I am thinking.

Iron filings on paper sheets may provide the answer, that and testing for a vortex.

I would expect the lifter not to spin because there is equal opposing force directly on the opposite side. There must be a left or right hand rule that can be applied to a lifter.

[Paul-R]

If lifters are truly antigravity, it should not matter which way up they are.

Try inverting, and see if its weight stays the same or goes up.

[raburgeson]

It is like a near vacuum wind that was described on Mars. It would have to be very high velocity to be noticed. There is more to it and we should figure out what. The government would not just let it go without testing. That's were civilian science falls short. By the way I don't buy the sparse atmosphere story on Mars. The most glaring proof this is a lie is the fact that they turned around and designed Balloon type rovers soon after wards that would not work under those conditions.