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Peltier Candle Powered JT

Started by unzapped, January 10, 2010, 04:44:32 PM

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unzapped

Thank you all for your replies.
@pirate I am not sure what an EER is atm.
I am looking to build a small indoor emergency power generator to run leds, a small radio and possibly charge some small devices.

In the event of a total power outage possibly for extended periods of time. The only thing readily avalable may be fire. aka candles, etc...

I want to build the "coleman lantern" of the 21st century.

I have been recently researching thermopiles, as micro piles are what peltiers are made of...
Seems like a lost science almost.

@pese I have seem the lantern you speak of... but I do not know what cascadin arrays are... do you have a link for some further explaination?

This must be easy to do, I have also thought about a piezo electric generator using hot oil as pressure to generate power... this also seems possible...

I would love to run this from a stirling, but I am afraid of the cost of each unit... target end price... under 200$

Thanks
Uz

Pirate88179

EER=Earth Energy Receiver.  That is what we are now calling the Earth Battery as it is not a battery at all.  Check out my tube videos where I run 400 leds, a 48" floro tube, and a Bedini motor from my EER for free.  (different videos, not all at the same time)

Also check out Lasersaber's EER videos, he has surpassed my results to date.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

resonanceman

Quote from: unzapped on January 11, 2010, 10:46:40 AM


I want to build the "coleman lantern" of the 21st century.






Unzapped

That may still be possible

What I do not understand   is why you want to use 18th century technology  to power  your 21st century idea

Have you  read anything  about Gadgetmals  try for the OU prize ?
Even if  he does not  win the prize.......his device lights  a LED as part of it running ....... a LED that will run for years at least

It is taking me  longer on my Jeanna light  than I had hoped.
I am trying to add some feedback  to make it  run longer..........hopefully MUCH longer

gary

Magluvin

Well if you want to use candle power, I would make a tube enclosure and a heat sink for the hot side of the peltier and another for the cold side. If you use the air rise from the flame, that cool air can pull a draft across the cold side and the area above the flame can be the hot side. The use of the cold updraft will help to get rid of the heat developed on the cold side. If you didnt take advantage of the cold draft, the efficiency of the peltier will be less. It would be interesting to see what the smallest flame would produce. And Up the tube, how many peltiers can be heated? =]

Mags

unzapped

I think you are all right. I am currently working on a jeanna circuit.. JT with secondary... trying to do some charging as well. This may be the way to go...

The peltier thing is just too inefficient, I can light a bulb no problem. But the heat does saturate the system eventually and it just doesn't produce enough power. Exactly barely enough to run the transistor.

I even thought about building my own pile with antimony and bizmuth... until I found out how much it was to buy the wire.

I would LOVE to add a stiriling this would just be too cool... however cost is an issue. Unless I could produce a cheap stirling that didn't look like a pos.

I am not giving up just yet... but I am looking in other directions.

Jason