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Joule Thief replications - not overunity

Started by PaulLowrance, January 12, 2010, 01:42:59 PM

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PaulLowrance

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on January 16, 2010, 12:58:36 PM
can you provide such data or did you only do it half assed?

"half assed" huh? Go talk to someone else, or do your DC measurements, lol.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 16, 2010, 12:59:47 PM
"half assed" huh? Go talk to someone else, or do your DC measurements, lol.
so you really only ran one test then didn't you pauly?
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PaulLowrance

btw, from here after I'll probably just quickly skim over your posts, so in case you ask, the fixed resistor measurement was done by measuring the temperature of the resistor above ambient, and then doing the control experiment to find the DC power. It's all DC measurements.

The other test of using the BCP0650 for the load was measuring the DC current & voltage. The control experiment was when I datalogged the BCP0650. Again, DC measurements.

Sorry, but for now I don't have time to teach 101 Electronics & Physics here. Bye.

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 16, 2010, 01:04:46 PM
btw, from here after I'll probably just quickly skim over your posts, so in case you ask, the fixed resistor measurement was done by measuring the temperature of the resistor above ambient, and then doing the control experiment to find the DC power. It's all DC measurements.

The other test of using the BCP0650 for the load was measuring the DC current & voltage. The control experiment was when I datalogged the BCP0650. Again, DC measurements.

Sorry, but for now I don't have time to teach 101 Electronics & Physics here. Bye.
is that another tacit admission that you only ran one test?
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ibpointless2

Well I don’t know for sure if the joule thief is overunity but it sometimes it feels like it when I look at my solar garden joule thief charger. I took the circuit board out of a solar garden light (Westinghouse item #474005) and have it hook up to charge a AA battery and run a red LED. Though the Joule thief, itself is not overunity but the overunity shows up in the battery due to the radiant energy that is put into it. The solar garden light is design from the start to run as long as it can on its AA battery and I have taken advantage of that. I’ve been running over a Week on the charger and every time I do my measurements more voltage has been put into the battery then what was taken out, and my charge battery is a non rechargeable too.

My run battery started off at 1.499 volts while my Charge battery started off (dead) at 1.073. Today my run battery reads 1.303 volts and my charge battery reads 1.355 volts; I lost .196 but gained .282 volts! Not bad for a battery that is not supposed to be charged, nor does it get warm and the run battery is still able to power a LED.

I do agree the joule thief itself is not overunity, but the overunity shows up in the batteries!

I’ve have improved it too, because i figured that the LED is just wasting power so I hook the original solar panel from the circuit above the LED, as to keep the extra room light out. With the lights on the panel outputs .180 volts, with the lights off at the middle of the night the panel outputs .171 volts. So I take that extra voltage and feed it to the charge battery and I gain overall an extra .001 in the charge battery, but i’ll take it! This just furthers proves that this can be used as overunity. I’m charging a battery to a higher condition then what the original battery had, heck I could charge my dead battery with other batteries to keep them going and the best part is that I can use non rechargeable alkaline batteries.