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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet motor in Argentina

Started by Jdo300, March 19, 2006, 12:46:30 AM

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Omnibus

Danny, see if this helps: The machine in question works only on the basis of repulsive force of permanent magnets placed properly in a special construction. The rotor has three adjacent magnets with their N poles directed outward, facing the N poles of three of the stator magnets. The fourth stator magnet is raised which allows a net tangential force to be created due to the magnetic repulsion. Said net force is enough to turn the rotor toward the gap (where fourth magnet was to be if not lifted) and to lift through a simple mechanism the fifth stator magnet. The raised fourth magnet descends while the rotor is turning until the three rotor magnets again face three stator magnets, one stator magnet off. At that, fifth magnet is fully raised and the whole above process repeats itself.

As for the raised stator magnet. It will not descend all by itself due to gravity because of the mutual repulsion among magnets which will keep it where it is (raised).

The importance of the cap is to keep down all the rest of the stator magnets, except for the one being raised and the one being lowered. If they are not deliberately kept down who knows where they?d go during the working of the machine ? remember that they mutually repel each other and also are repelled by the rotor magnets.

silverdragonrs

possable problem with your image tao..... (probably just me but i thought i should post it anyway...... i understand that the wedge under the north end of the magnet is what causes the lift (i hope this is right)........ if that is true then what is with this picture...... maybe omnibus can explain it i tend to understand your wording of things better....
I would like to quote my idol... if you please.. press any key now.. "Anykey?!, Where's the N E Key?" ~ Homer Simpson ~ ......... one day.. With lotsa hard work and dedication.. I .. will be this good.. :)

Omnibus

silverdragonrs, you?re quite right. This was one of the points we were discussing. Whether we should go along Torbay?s original design with the beveling you point out or with the small wheels attached frontally at each stator lever and use a ramp to raise them. I think beveling is a better idea but I may be wrong.

jaybird

QuoteTao: After doing about 100 FEMM simulations and FORCE calculations on the rotor I have determined that the rotor has only ONE MAGNET and that magnet is a disc/ring magnet that is MAGNETIZED THROUGH ITS DIAMETER!

?I had originally thought this same thing, only magnetized thru its width (just like a speaker magnet) (See reply #11) and that is what I originally experimented with AND what I got the best results with...but I dont have a ring mag that is diametrically magnetized to try.

?However I also noticed that all of the speaker magnets I have (mag thru thickness) have a "spot" in them that makes it react like it IS magnetized thru its diameter. Out of 6 Ring magnets I have, I have identified and circled (for past experiments) these "bubbles" that make them react like a Dia. magnetized ring mag....that may be why these were my best results.


Omnibus

OK, tao, I see what you mean. It's only that in your picture the beginning of the bevel in the leftmost stator lever isn't seen that well. The view of the bevel on the right-hand side lever on the other hand is obstructed by the construction. This is only a detail, though.