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Magnet motor in Argentina

Started by Jdo300, March 19, 2006, 12:46:30 AM

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hartiberlin

@Tao, many thanks for the movie, could not yet look at it, cause I am still only at my PDA right now, but will wa
tch it tommorow on my PC. Many thanks for the great effort.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

jaybird

I made it back from a long day...wowsers, this thread has grown! Great work Tao!

Good work silverdragonrs ... has anyone actually started a replication yet? I have finally halved a ring magnet, so first thing in the morning I am getting started...will keep everyone posted, and I dug out my gigital camera.

Good to see so many new people interested also, it really adds to the push to get this motor replicated.

Have a great nite...its 1:00am here and I'm pooped (but I couldnt get this thing out of my head all day working)

JayBird

jaybird

Thought I would post what I am replicating before hitting the hay....

Cisco

Quote from: tjanzer on April 06, 2006, 10:59:38 AM

Per attached drawing. N2 is on the way up. N3 is up and on the way down.
As N2 rises, it is helped by N1 and opposed by N3.
As N3 lowers, it is opposed by N2 and then opposed by N4.
Once N2/N3 are past midpoint, they will help each other but N3 is still opposed by N4.
(oops, I think the direction arrow is the wrong way).

This is why I think you may require springs to return the stator in line.

TJ
tjanzer,

   This in response to your reply #459, April 6, bottom of page 46, with your block diagram depicting the vertical movement of adjacent stators. I'm looking for more clarification on what you said near the end in parentheses: "Oops, I think the direction arrow is the wrong way."
My question is, is there a consensus on which way is it supposed to be?
   In your depiction, the movement is assymetric, i.e. the up movement is shown relatively gradual and the down movement is sudden. This would be consistent with Torbay's early wood block prototype, with the wheel underneath the beveled stator magnet holders.
   Whereas in Tao's recent video model with the hump in the rotor, the movement is symetric, i.e. even both up and down. If the hump were to be modified so as to produce an assymetric movement, the stators could only behave oppositely: sudden up, gradual down. This is because the wheels are mounted on top of the stators.
   So we have 3 possible movements here, depending on which design we use (or bellcurve we imagine):
1. Even up & down
2. Gradual up, sudden down
3. Sudden up, gradual down

Does anyone have a considered opinion on which choice may be best?   

tjanzer

Cisco,

The drawing was in reference to Silerdragonrs statement that up and down won't be a problem. What I have attempted to show is a snapshot in time.  If N3 is dropping and N2 is rising, that would mean that the arrow is pointing in the wrong direction. Sorry for the confusion.

As far as your inquiry regarding the bellcurve (great word for this), until a few of us have our replications complete, I wouldn't even want to comment. I think we need to do tests to find out which is best. And thank-you for that question. I will try to design my rotor so that the ramp/bellcurve can be easily replaced or modified for these tests. Instead of making a replica, I am building a motor where most of the parts are adjustable such as, length of stator, heigth of stator,... This way, I will be able to try different diameter rotors and sizes of ramps.

The advantage of this is that the motor will be fully adjustable during the test phase. Also, if my design does not work (it will  :-*), I can easily modify it to someone who has a working model without scrapping the whole thing.

TJ