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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet motor in Argentina

Started by Jdo300, March 19, 2006, 12:46:30 AM

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silverdragonrs

jaybird -

replying to:
2) The "Cap" or "Descenso Controlado" is 1/2 Diameter also, and allows only 1 arm up fully and 1 arm STARTING up ... the Arms are positioned BELOW the "invisible Mid-Line" of the rotor ?(as I was talking about in beggining) which repels AND keeps them in a DOWN position...only the Rolling Magnet Wheel pushes the Arms UP...the Cap pushes only CONTROLS or makes sure of the timing... once the rotor half is past, the arms fall on their own, perhaps even pushing (or adding) to the total push of the system.




let me know how your protype goes. I do not agree with your theory (just cause it directly conflicts with mine :) ?) but that does not mean your wrong .

I believe that there is a lot of upwards pressure on the stator magnets. ill explain.

the down stator magnets must be directly even with the rotor magnet to work (angled should be fine but not below the midline) the up stator magnet must rise above the rotor magnet and at least mostly out of the magnetic feild of the rotor magnet(s). the magnetic field of the stator magnets to the sides push against the magnets between them. since it can not move down (do to the base being there) to get out of the way it will attempt to move up. this is where the cap comes in holding it down untill it is it's turn to move up. not only are the magnets to the side of each magnet applying inword pressure on each magnet but the rotor magnet is also aplying pressure as well. if the stator magnet were angled downwards then the forces all around it would slow the rotor and decrease over all power to the device. this is due to the downward pressure created by the rotor magnet being above the end of the stator magnet and side magnets pressuring against the sides as the weel of the rotor attemptes to raise it. the over all performance would also be effected by the difficulty that the rotor cap would have in pushing the stator magnet down past the rotor magnet level. also by using only half of a disk magnet (not sure of this) but arent you setting the rotor off balance (in terms of weight)? and also if you cut a magnet in half dont the poles re adjust? (image provided)

in short the arms will have to pass the midline of the rotor magnets wich if the rotor has to do this it will drag the rpms and torque down dramatically.
not to mention getting them down again will not happen without force. the arms will not just fall down past the rotors midline...

if the north end of the stator magnets is below the north end of the rotor magnet then you are robbing the device of efficiency. the point of strongest repulsion/attraction is at the midline. not only would the stator magnets be below the midline of the rotor but the top of the magnet would be the surface interacting with the rotor (pushing up)

in torbays original weel design i think the weels job is not to lift the stator magnet, but simply to knock it out of the feild. the slightest nudge should give the feild all it needs. the inward pressure of all the surrounding magnets should push it the rest of the way up. ?the cap brings it down to just the right level so as not to push it below the magnetic curve of the rotor magnet.

i think that the magnet polarised through its diameter (in full) will help releave a lot of the pressure on the rotor cap. thus allowing it to produce more rpms and torque.

i may (and probably am) missunderstanding just what you intend. perhaps you can explain your theory in more depth.

if i have gotten your plan wrong i am sorry.

danny
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Omnibus

silverdragonrs, which one of the constructions are you replicating? Is it the one with the bevels or that with the springs? Can you post a video, even if the motor isn?t working, or at least a photo of your motor?

silverdragonrs

off topic....

perhaps you could rar/zip (winrar has an option to save as zip) your avi files to increase download/upload times and save some more bandwidth as well :) just an idea :)
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silverdragonrs

sorry omnibus my camera is a peice of junk and wont work anymore. and i have no video camera. i did post a mspaint layout of what i was doing earlier. take a look at that.

thanks danny
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silverdragonrs

when and if i get a working replica going i will borrow a digital video camera off my mother inlaw so you do not have to take my word on it. just thaught i would add that. :)

danny

p.s. (call me danny, silverdragonrs is to much to type! :) )
I would like to quote my idol... if you please.. press any key now.. "Anykey?!, Where's the N E Key?" ~ Homer Simpson ~ ......... one day.. With lotsa hard work and dedication.. I .. will be this good.. :)