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The Power of Gravity - You might find this interesting.

Started by ResinRat2, October 30, 2009, 01:54:52 PM

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Justalabrat

Quote from: ResinRat2 on November 05, 2009, 05:46:11 PM
So you can see this idea is very, very simple. I know there is nothing new here.Store excess energy from solar/wind into a mechanical battery composed of a shaft downward and a very heavy weight held by a cable. Simply raise the weight with excess power during the day, and reclaim it once the solar/wind activity ceases for the day by allowing the weight to again go downward into the shaft and turn a generator (maxing out the gear ratio to get the most energy possible from gravity's pull). No chemicals, no battery memory effect, no toxic lithium to dispose of, and no need to tie into the Electric Power Grid.

As simple a mechanical battery as a simple mind could conceive. I don't think you could get a patent on this one however, and digging the shaft wouldn't be too cheap; nor would the mechanical equipment needed to raise the weight. Can it be commercialized into something practical? Especially in our "green" era?

That was the whole idea behind it though.

Thanks for everyone's input and interest.

RR2
You know the real cool thing about this method is you could tell just by looking how much power you had stored.  ;D

you could get free energy from the rain! just put an empty tank as your weight, and when it rains let it fill the tank! :)

raburgeson

Well, before I got misdirected on other projects I was working on hydrogen on demand. Newton's Laws came from and apple testing impenetrability on his head. That observation was point of view on a very limited basis. I find interesting the rings on Saturn and Jupiter. That and the 2 major asteroid belts in our solar system that should not exist in their present state. Do to constant impacts and energy being transferred from mass to mass, the belts should have dispersed instead of staying in a localized orbit. We came to the believe the the same energy that powers gravity is either the same energy that forms the molecular bond in water or a sister energy. Electric and magnetism (brother and sister energies). One does not exist without the other. We don't believe time is directly related and that points to another possible undefined energy. We are crunching numbers and will look at formulas now under investigation. I would appreciate any point outs to such works that I might miss by search engine. We think some comets are displaying overunity and may leave the solar system in the distant future. After the sling shot they seem to be still increasing energy, most curious.

We are trying to find a relationship between the orbits of the planets and their moons and the planets and the Sol at the moment. We think these objects may be traveling in an energy (Gravity) race track, so to speak.

Lenz's law, passing a nonmagnetic material through a strong magnetic flux will slow or resist movement. Why does the Earth then rotate? Other planets? Is the moons orbit centered around a average of the magnetic equator? Can the heat at the center of our planet be coming from another dimension's or universe's potential difference and can that be explained by Torsion Physics?

Not all planets have a moon or moons. All elements have electrons. Even with the exception from planets do electrons have a pathway similar to the one we are looking for in the solar system. This is the point were I draw a possible relationship between gravity and my hydrogen pursuits. This is not put here for any type of disinformation. I am trying to ask the right questions here.

I have proved that the governments are falsifying scientific information. I cracked the photos from space that scientist around the world are studying to get data from. There was not one pixel from space that I could find. Just computer generated subliminal smut and a main theme. These (cough) pictures have been withdrawn from the net and new ones have appeared with the exact same agenda. They include Mercury, and Europa. Working from false data the opinions of the doctorate astrophysicist opinion is probably worth less than mine. Take that to heart. It didn't take them long to retire the rovers after my cracked solution to their lie was made public did it? I have excellent reason to believe everything they teach about gravity is misdirection too. I will repeat myself here the governments pick and control the curriculum you learn from in the school systems.

The rings of Saturn and Jupiter have things in common the most important is they are both created by a huge rotating mass. How much gravity work is centered around a rotating mass? Actually think for yourselves people your schooling is going to fail you here, No one has given you this answer. Even if you are thinking wrong, it's more important you think than continually return to texts that do not contain the information.

mr_bojangles

that is why we must not use water, but a magnet!

and straight down is the most inefficient way of using gravity

put the magnet on a pendulum and it will conserve some of the wasted energy that a kinetic battery would not


there is something going on with lateral movement, man invented the wheel for something, i hope it wasn't just for cars
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it." 
-WC Fields

Nabo00o

Resin Rat, I disagree with the formula you used in the first post.
At least if you want to calculate the kinetic energy which 1 kg of water gains at the end of a 1 meter fall, then the formula is this:
Ek = (M * V^2)/2 
and V = height * the gravity constant, where you wrote 9.8 m/s

So, then we get: 1 * 9.8^2 * 0.5 =  48.02 Joules!

Interesting that the work formula and kinetic energy formula turns out so different ;D
Also, note that if you use leverage for more distance instead of force, you will get more energy out because kinetic energy is proportional to mass but quadrople of velocity!

Julian

Edit: Sorry I got the math completely wrong there!
Since it doesn't fall for one second, but one meter, it actually reaches a velocity of 0.1 m/s....
That halved gives aproximately 0.05 Joules, at least acording to the kinetic energy formula.
BUT, it still holds that you can increase that energy by sacrificing mass to height, as you can by using a piston as leverage.
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.