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Overunity Machines Forum



array of magnets + energy accumulation + skip the last magnet = it works

Started by shimondoodkin, February 03, 2010, 07:27:28 PM

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harrison73

@mscoffman

not wind, just borrowing the mechanics of the whirligig, just using a crankshaft like deal, so when you start spinning the array of magnets a crankshaft sort of deal times the opposing magnets into each other.

victore

I believe the V-gate wheel turned the attention of many of us towards OU and magnetics. However, i believe that by simply applying mechanic tricks, this won't generate OU, otherwise it would be working already, or would be patented.

On the other hand, i was thinking about eliminating the mechanical uplifts by applying an electromagnet (coils) around the stator, which would be used only to cancel the stator NEO magnet's field at the gate. 

At slow speeds, of course, the input energy would be certainly higher, because it would take relatively much time to get through the gate... BUT, as the speed increases, you need to cancel the field for shorter and shorter periods.

In other words, one full turn of the V-gate wheel will require less and less input energy as the RPM increases. Theoretically, there could be a point where the input energy is almost 0 per revolution, while the wheel is turning very fast.

Viktor

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Quote from: Rapadura on March 01, 2010, 08:18:41 PM
No way... The force needed to move the stator is minimal...  And it just need to "jump" the sticky spot. After the jump, gravity can be used to make the stator go back to its position during the rest of the rotation. And after the wheel is acelerated, the stator can be put aside and the wheel continues to spin for a while...

I think its a promissing design...
Yes, it is minimal force used to remove the stator, but it is also a minimal force that turns the wheel. It just don't work - also the reason why the sator is allways hand held in such demonstrations.

Vidar


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Quote from: victore on March 02, 2010, 02:56:50 PM
I believe the V-gate wheel turned the attention of many of us towards OU and magnetics. However, i believe that by simply applying mechanic tricks, this won't generate OU, otherwise it would be working already, or would be patented.

On the other hand, i was thinking about eliminating the mechanical uplifts by applying an electromagnet (coils) around the stator, which would be used only to cancel the stator NEO magnet's field at the gate. 

At slow speeds, of course, the input energy would be certainly higher, because it would take relatively much time to get through the gate... BUT, as the speed increases, you need to cancel the field for shorter and shorter periods.

In other words, one full turn of the V-gate wheel will require less and less input energy as the RPM increases. Theoretically, there could be a point where the input energy is almost 0 per revolution, while the wheel is turning very fast.
Viktor
This is simply not correct, I'm afraid. The time it spend to open the gate gets shorter at high RPMs, yes you're right, but the number of times per minute or second also increase. So the net input energy will remain the same.

Vidar