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Electrical igniter for gas engines A keystone to understanding by Magluvin

Started by Magluvin, March 01, 2010, 01:30:50 AM

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gyulasun

I think it is mechanical resonance. Any shape or form of a subject has got a (mechanical) resonance frequency, consider glass when a singer's voice matches its resonance the glass brakes.
Somehow the ambient conditions for the arrow was good for giving energy just at its resonance.

Gyula

wattsup

@Magluvin

I saw your build but do not have enough information on the used components and general system design to be able to properly comment on it.

If it is based on the photo you put up here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8841.msg239400#msg239400
then there are too many questions to ask before one can comment.

Are those magnets all north or south up. Are the three right coils drive coils or some are pickup coils. If they are pick up coils, why are they located on the side and not on top facing down on the magnets. The circuits you are using seem very elaborate. Why. Is there any way for flyback to return to source. You know, a guy could go on and on with question and questions, so it is not easy for anyone to comment without the proper back ground.

Maybe I have not looked far enough given my own lack of time because of present orientations.

I can tell you that with that magnet wheel set-up you can easily try the Tesla Ozone Patent if you use the magnet/reed as the switcher and the three coils as the motor coil. You first have to measure the inductance of the coils to see if they have enough to both drive the wheel and charge a discharge capacitor. Switching will always be the weak point in any device. The reed would have to be on a bracket that can adjust a distance from one magnet to the other to properly get the timing etc.

Don't give up.

Cherryman

For my HHO tests i need a simple reliable spark.  Once, just when i push a button.

Nothing fancy, preferable made out of kitchen "stuff" ;-)

I now have a piezo out of a lighter..  But it seems not so reliable, any tips?


http://www.youtube.com/user/YbborNetsrek#p/a/u/0/F5BdqyglLe0

Magluvin

Forest
I think Guyla has your answer with the arrow. Imagine the arrow being jolted by the release of the bow. The arrow may bend a bit, sending it off with a wiggle. And the time of flight of the arrow is fairly short, so the arrow has not finished wiggling by the time it hits its target.
As for the Einstein wiki, I read it and it sounds interesting. Will have to ponder that a bit. ;]

Watts
The rotor has diametric discs, N42 1/2x1/8 .  It was one of my original Whipmag rotors, modified to 16 magnet positions for pulse motors. The pic that you pointed to was just some of the stuff that I am using for this experiment, not anything connected yet. The coils read at .14 ohm in parallel.
The mags were not all installed in the pic as it was used for other experiments earlier. With all the mags in place, alternating N and S out, I pulse the coils when the coil is centered between the rotor mags. This way we get a push off of 1 mag and pull from the other, of which I have found to accelerate the rotor much quicker than just repelling or attracting 1 lone rotor magnet at a time.  I use a reed polarizing mag so that the reed only closes on 1 magnet polarity from the rotor for timing.
I think that with this igniter circuit "igniting" the motor coils, that there will be a point in the rpms that will be most efficient as the timing and cap and large inductor time will coincide with each other best. It will be interesting. I am working on it as we speak.

Cherryman

You can use a cheap ignition coil for a car to get a good reliable spark by just using 12v to pulse the input of the coil with a push button. The spark will be released when you release the switch. Im not sure what you are using it for by looking at the vid.
You can also get a small HV spark with a 120v to 12v transformer and putting 12v on the 12v side, and when you release the connection, the 120v side actually produces a HV spark, more than 120v. The 120v end leads have to be pretty close together to get the spark to jump. 25KV will jump across an inch. So if it jumps across 1/16 inch, it is about 1.5KV.  Hope that helps

Mags

Cherryman

@Magluvin

I't seems i got the piezo a bit more reliabel ;-)

But i will consider youre first idear also.

Tnx!.