Electrical igniter for gas engines A keystone to understanding by Magluvin

[Cap-Z-ro]

What if the steel ball is mounted on the outer edge of a wheel...and the magnets arranged in an incomplete circle...the starting point.

When the process is started by pushing the wheel, an attached gear then moves another magnet into the circle to complete the loop.

Regards...

[woopy]

Hi Cap

Thank's for the idea, But i think it is not the thread for this topic here. I hope we will stay focusing on the INDUCTOR /DIODE pumping effect.

So Mag

in your link to DISTINTI i found this "NEW MAGNETISM" theory with the edge current, And i wonder if it could help us to better understand the magnetism in the inductor by a different way (simply a proposal). But i have  no experience ,on that at this point ,and i simply made some experiment to check, and  as you said we have to turn all stones.
Perhaps somebody has more knowledge on those edge current ?

But for today, i redo my experiment in the sim with the BC with a lot  serial "diode inductor and resistor. "

And as i install more than 4 series , depending of the right switching of the current on the source cap, the soft does no more  converge (see pix) .

That means that the soft is at its limit.
  SO Or it can't violate the programable limit that the conceptor insatalled in it , because he integrated the WELL KNOWN formula.
Or the soft can not handle that very basic and not so complicated montage. Which i doubt.

So if i run the sim at very low speed, i can clearly see tha it  works steadily all along the process untill a red line said to him "YOU CAN NOT CONTINUE THE PROCESS BECAUSE YOU WILL VIOLATE THE RULES " and so  it can not converge.

The soft can not afford OU , But if we follow the process (in very low speed setting ) you can see that the soft stops really close to 100 % energy transfer. ??

So i think that we have really to dismantle 4 to 5 MOT and test in real life a longer serie of those inductors.

anyway we will learn something

good luck at all

Laurent

[Magluvin]

Hey Woopy

As for the sim locking up, or errors, sometimes lowering the source voltage helps. And maybe just use a wire instead of the bottom diode. As I said before, diodes in an open link(when you open the switch) at times give problems. It is not usual in real life that diodes are used this way, so the sim may be correct in the errors, as its is seeing something out of the norm.

When using just wire instead of that diode, just slow the sim down and open the switch when needed for testing. ;]

I have had the sim go completely wacky showing more than trillions off voltages, amps and power. So testing in the real world is necessary when using any sim.
Its a very helpful tool for free. A lot of the time it is great.

Ah  now I know the pdf. ;]

One thing Im not sure of with the magnetic film and their explanation.

I have worked with the magnet film, still do.  But how it works in showing magnetic fields is a bit tricky to interpret.

The bright spots and lines are showing strong field areas, but they are also when the field is horizontal or planar to the film. 

You see the surface of the pole is dark. There is a lot of field there, but its vertical, perpendicular to the surface of the film.

At the edges of the pole, some flux takes a very sharp turn to the other pole once outside the core of the magnet core, or mass, or IT. lol  loss for words.

And when you use the film, as in the pdf, when you look at the edge of the magnet, you see the line in the middle in between the poles. That really just shows the field when its planar to the film. A thin magnet. from pole to pole like those, have a strong arc of field, so the light line is showing a very small arc at that point on the magnet. As you raise the film away from the magnet, the light line gets wider, as the arcs are greater in diameter as we go outward from the mag.

Not trying to distract you from the project, not at all. In fact what would be more interesting is using the film on an inductor.  ;]  I hadnt gotten into that subject for too long. I wasnt making a connection with the idea.

If you experiment with the mag film the way I suggested you will begin to see what Im sayin is true.  ;]  I looked up how the film is made and how to use it properly when I began using it. I dont know if I have that info readily available.


I think I may have a solution for the BC.  In the pdf Toroidal Transformer Based Power Amplifier, it shows how to use multiple cores to multiply primary flux without drawing more from the primary.  Now if this works, we can charge 1 coil, but really be charging 2, or 3, or 10, for the price of 1.

In itself it would be a key element as a transformer. But to bring the BC back to life by using inductors with multiple cores, would be a nice place to be.  ;]

We seem to know so far what a regular inductor will accomplish for us, and its use will come in handy to keep efficiency high when needed.

So I think that different coil configurations need to be tested.  I have 2 multi core inductors Im winding now. Takes time. lol. 
Ill put up pics when they are finished.

Im putting up the pdf here again, as I think it will help us greatly.  ;]

Mags

[poynt99]

I was thinking of creating an annex to my "capacitor energy transfer" document to better explain the role the inductor plays in increasing the efficiency and to show the mechanism involved for its energy storage and zero (theoretical) energy dissipation.

However, I don't want to go through the trouble if no one is interested. Please let me know.

.99

[woopy]

Hehe P.99

As i said , for my very low electronic level , every input in better comprehension  on this stuff will be anyway benefical.
So for myself i do not see why you seems to hesitate to share your knowledges ?

But i speak for me, don't want to anticipate others comments.

good luck at all

laurent