Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[CazadorDeTruchos]

Sterling Allan,  travels to GENEVA through the efforts of hundreds of volunteers who paid for his trip and stay (i am one).

Now, he is in Switzerland (or France) . It´s Ok.

If you see the video travel, Allan think that is in paid vacations. Looks to us like a Hollywood star on the red carpet. Bravo!

Meanwhile, no power measured, no torque measured, no RPM measured. Sterling is in the summer time?.

Why do you traveled to Geneva Sterling? For eat and drink with YILDIZ?

Please, somebody of PES or Overunity talk to him!!

Please, please, don't waste this opportunity Sterling Allan. We're all counting on you!

Let YILDIZ to do his "FAN DEMO FOR EVER", but you do your job!.

I'm in error? Or am I asking too much?

Best whishes for all.

[ramset]

Silly silly boyz...........

enough of this silliness.... one of you fellows ask  "Sterlinga" for the  blade part number.
The tinMan uses blades all the time for a torque load.as a matter of fact they're very good for this. [provided you stay in spec [no cavitation]


MH Keep your bathroom scales and personal hygiene products ,.......you time the run... you get the RPM


get us a  duplicate blade or part #  some "tube" dimensions and Ambient temp  [humidity would be nice too]at time of test ~ We'll do the rest [Its called a "control"]


END OF STORY!!
Thx
Chetkremens@gmail.com


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[MileHigh]

get us a  duplicate blade or part #  some "tube" dimensions and Ambient temp  [humidity would be nice too]at time of test ~ We'll do the rest [Its called a "control"]

And do precisely what Chet?

[TinselKoala]

Silly silly boyz...........

enough of this silliness.... one of you fellows ask  "Sterlinga" for the  blade part number.
The tinMan uses blades all the time for a torque load.as a matter of fact they're very good for this. [provided you stay in spec [no cavitation]


MH Keep your bathroom scales and personal hygiene products ,.......you time the run... you get the RPM


get us a  duplicate blade or part #  some "tube" dimensions and Ambient temp  [humidity would be nice too]at time of test ~ We'll do the rest [Its called a "control"]


END OF STORY!!
Thx
Chetkremens@gmail.com


Edit reason : added a "Ster" and removed a "stupid"~

Agreed. A properly used and characterised propeller or fan blade is perfectly legitimate as a load, and can even give a linear power "curve" with RPM within its range. However it needs to be properly mounted, and of course calibrated by spinning it with a "known underunity" motor whose power consumption can be accurately monitored.

The part number of the propeller that Yildiz is using might not be helpful, for a couple of reasons. First, we have no assurance that the prop hasn't been altered from its original specs, and second.... the silly thing doesn't actually look to me like a fan blade or propeller at all, it looks more like a "mode stirrer" from an old microwave oven, that is designed to reflect microwaves around for even cooking.... and is spun by a little gearmotor that goes about 50 or 60 rpm. It's not even designed to be aerodynamic.

Of course even such a blade could be used as an aerodynamic load _as long as it is calibrated_ by running it from a known motor dissipating a known amount of power. (run the calibration motor with no load at a certain RPM and record its power consumption. Add the blade and run to the same rpm, record data. The difference will be the power dissipation at that RPM of the blade alone. Then move your blade to the motor under test and run to the same RPM.... and you will know how much power your DUT is providing to the shaft. Of course you may not have control of the RPM of the DUT, so you will need to prepare a calibration nomograph using several different RPM values from your calibration motor system.

EDITED to add the example pic below. This is _not_ a fan blade! It's the microwave reflective stirrer from an antique MW oven, along with its little motor, showing its 50 RPM rotation speed.

[ramset]

Tell Sterlinga
there's a 100 bucks on the table if he comes back with the test Blade,
and we'll return it when finished [both blades would be nice actually]


If he won't go for that take some tissue paper and Hair spray [spikey hair  mousse would work also]
and make an impression of one blade or as much of the fan  as he will allow!
[50 bucks for that!!]

And Yes TK you have almost perfectly outlined the Control procedure !
Thx
Chet