Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[Gwandau]

 
I just can't understand why Mr. Yildiz keeps returning year after year with this same little motor.

He doesn't act as a genuine inventor, anyone technically skilled would have kept improving the prototype from year to year.

If I knew how to create rotational torque with permanent magnets, I would immediately have stepped up in prototype size.
Stepping up in size is absolutely essential, since it will once and for all get rid of all the suspicion created by that little box of his.

The step from 35 watts to 35 kilowatts or even 35 thousand kilowatts is no big challenge for a mechanical invention,  just scale it up with bigger parts.

And this repeated response that the bearings of the shaft does not allow for torque tests! Give me a brake.

What is this guy waiting for?!
With an invention like this, getting together a few hundred thousand dollars would not be a problem. Nothing would have stopped me.

I would have started a small powerplant locally, becoming an energy distributor known for my strange engine.
That would propel the whole thing into the mainstream media and the rest would be part of the history books.

But instead we have this strange little man with his little box appearing here and there, but never letting anyone come to close....

As far as I am concerned, the whole story smells funny.

Gwandau

[MileHigh]

TK:

Of course even such a blade could be used as an aerodynamic load _as long as it is calibrated_ by running it from a known motor dissipating a known amount of power. (run the calibration motor with no load at a certain RPM and record its power consumption. Add the blade and run to the same rpm, record data. The difference will be the power dissipation at that RPM of the blade alone. Then move your blade to the motor under test and run to the same RPM.... and you will know how much power your DUT is providing to the shaft. Of course you may not have control of the RPM of the DUT, so you will need to prepare a calibration nomograph using several different RPM values from your calibration motor system.

I have real reservations about this and I don't think it's correct.  You know how much power the motor draws at the test RPM with no fan.  Let's call that the "overhead_power."  When you add the fan load, you will get an increased electrical power draw at the test RPM.  Let's call the increased load the "extra_power."  That still does not tell you about the incremental changes in the power mix as you slowly add an increasing mechanical load.  The only thing that you know is that the power draw increases to the overhead_power plus the extra_power.

The actual mechanical power required to turn the fan is not necessarily equal to the extra_power.  You don't really know where the split is between the true waste heat power and the true mechanical fan power.  For example, the bearings go from seeing no mechanical load to seeing a mechanical load.  The fan is imparting an axial pull on the bearings and there are other random disturbance stresses on the bearings.  That may affect the burn-off power rate in the bearings and that is a total unknown.

You can also look at it like this: If you want to measure the mechanical power from the fan at the test RPM - then measure the actual _mechanical_ power draw from the fan itself - don't mess with making electrical measurements.

The best thing is the bathroom balance test.  Somebody posted that for a few extra dollars you can get bathroom scales with a resolution of 0.01 Kg - 10 grams.  It's not super fine resolution but it will work.  It's a _real_ dynamometer test on the actual device under test with the actual fan load.  When the closing bell for the show happens, you could still be streaming live on the Internet.  It would take less than 15 minutes to set it up and record all of the data.

MileHigh

[ramset]

MH
The fact is, regardless of anything else the blade Load can be calculated from any high school text book,in the USA.
and from most 3rd grade school books in China........


Maybe Kindergarten books in Germany ??


MH
its not a perfect world ,asking Weights and measures to come to Geneva to Calibrate a few "walmart"scales and then getting a letter of indemnity from Loyds of London for a Liability Umbrella ?


Its just too Busy.........
Hollywood even!!?


Blade specs will tell the tale with a few other data points.
No fuss No muss!!


thx
Chet

[profitis]

the important question is what kind of physics are behind the motor action if not a scam.its either a violation of 1st law thermodynamics or 2nd law thermodynamics.im going to rule out a 1st law violation and go with the 2nd and say its some kind of assymetry in the isothermal magnetic cycle of events.a part of the magnets must be cooling down and sucking in ambient heat here.

[synchro1]

Compare this Halbach circle with the spoked wedges of Yildiz's stator: